Sealed plastic clamshell packaging

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Honestly, is there anything more annoying? I usually have to resort to using scissors or a utility knife to split open the sharp edged plastic.

What, good old paper boxes were too convenient for the consumer to open?
 

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"Sealed clamshell" is an oxymoron. Clamshells can be easily opened. I think you're talking about blister pack.

Plastic is far more durable than paper; and blister packs are a cheap and easy way to package. That said, manufacturers have been overpackaging for years.

Why does toothpaste come in a tube in a box? Why does cereal come in a bag in a box?

This is why we need something like Duales System Deutchland.
 

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I was thinking about calling them blister packs, but isn't that what they call the type of packaging pharmaceutical companies use to package pills like birth control pills, antihistamines, etc. where you have to push the pill through the metal foil?
 

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sechs said:
manufacturers have been overpackaging for years.

And we're not even as bad as Japan. Have you ever seen those packages of snacks or candies? Each piece of chocolate, candy, ju jube, jellybean, nut... everything is packaged by the molecule, for god's sake!
 

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"Blister" refers to how they form the plastic, so it applies to lots of type of packaging. Batteries usually come in blister packs, and they aren't very hard to open.
 

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e_dawg said:
sechs said:
manufacturers have been overpackaging for years.

And we're not even as bad as Japan. Have you ever seen those packages of snacks or candies? Each piece of chocolate, candy, ju jube, jellybean, nut... everything is packaged by the molecule, for god's sake!

I believe that all that you are saying is that companies for years have been destroying and polluting the environment with their stupid ideas of marketing a product but nobody seems to care that is the reason why they continue.

one suggestion for you all open your packages where you purchase them and leave behind the wrapping containers that you dislike for them to tidy up sooner or later they will get the message.
 

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its.fubar said:
one suggestion for you all open your packages where you purchase them and leave behind the wrapping containers that you dislike for them to tidy up

Please see comment above:

sechs said:
This is why we need something like Duales System Deutchland.
 

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sechs said:
This is why we need something like Duales System Deutchland.

Ah, I was finally able to google it to see what you meant. At first glance, it doesn't seem significantly superior to the recycling system we have here in N.America. Most of the packaging material in Canada can be recycled, and plastics are especially marked for that purpose. The problem, however, is that it is still left to the end consumer to take the initiative to recycle:

Personal initiative is what counts
Waste separation starts in private households. Used sales packaging is collected separately from the residual waste and forwarded for recycling by specialised waste management companies. --Duales System Deutschland

And the problem is that it is often not that convenient enough for many of us to do so. In many apartment and condominium buildings that I've seen, recycling facilities are either absent or poor. Most residents (including myself) simply throw packaging materials out with the regular trash instead of finding space to put a separate recyling bin in my cramped apartment and trekking all over the building to find the one recycling station buried in the bowels of the building. Few buildings have the space or money to have recycling stations set up on every floor either in the same room as the garbage chute or elsewhere on each floor.

But as I said, this is at first glance. How does the DSD differ from the recycling programs we have in N.America (besides being more standardized and more centrally administered)?
 

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Here we are given 3 waste containers, the first is very large and is only for yard waste. The second is 60% of that one's size and is for recycling, all different things that could possibly be recycled are dumped into the single container (they do the sorting). The third can is tiny, probably 50% of the recycling, and is for trash.

Very convinent, very easy. I'm sure it's costing more tax dollars to have someone else do the sorting, but I'm sure more people are participating this way.
 

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In Germany, all sellers are required to take back all packaging materials for items that they sell. So, say that I buy a tube of toothpaste in a box; I can leave the box and later bring back the empty tube -- that the retailer must accept. Requirements concerning refuse make this a very expensive proposition.

DSD is the system that manufacturers put into place to take those materials and do something appropriate with them. While a consumer could certainly not place their waste packaging into the system, he would have to bear the cost of taking care of it.
 

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We are continually appalled by the needless waste generated by computer packaging. The most conspicuous in a long, long Hall of Shame is AMD. Their CPU packaging is truly dreadful.

I spoke to the Technical Manager for AMD Australia about this some time ago - a year or m,ore - and he said that they had new, environmentally responsible packaging in train and that it would be introduced soon after Christmas. That's Christmas two years ago.

Nothing has been done. AMD CPUs continue to arrive in vast, unweildy packages, that are difficult to open and impossible to even squash flat.

Damn it, I don't want to become an Intel shop - I much prefer the AMD product, but their dreadful psackaging really gets up my nose.
 

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Yep. I bet they use the godawful clear plastic blister packaging that I was complaining about. I honestly don't know what was wrong with recycled paper box packaging that paved the way for this plastic crap.
 

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I'd be perfectly happy with the old-style bulk-packaged CPUs - just a bare CPU on a plastic tray - but AMD refuse to sell them these days unless you order them in ridiculously large quantities (~100 pcs, as I recall) and if you can get them in sensible quatities (5 to 10 pcs), they cost more.

grrr ....
 

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sechs said:
its.fubar said:
one suggestion for you all open your packages where you purchase them and leave behind the wrapping containers that you dislike for them to tidy up

Please see comment above:

sechs said:
This is why we need something like Duales System Deutchland.

It seems sechs that not everybody understood what you meant by Duales System "Deutchland" Germany but I believe everyone understood what I was getting at.
 

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I think the winner of the "sensible retail packaging award" goes to Thermalright. Their retail products ship in non-wax covered brown cardboard boxes with minimal inserts and plastic bags. I recently bought a case of OEM ATI Radeon 9800Pros, and they shipped in anti-static bags in a brown box with cardboard dividers. I can't imagine any less waste to get them here safely.
 

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ddrueding said:
I think the winner of the "sensible retail packaging award" goes to Thermalright. Their retail products ship in non-wax covered brown cardboard boxes with minimal inserts and plastic bags. I recently bought a case of OEM ATI Radeon 9800Pros, and they shipped in anti-static bags in a brown box with cardboard dividers. I can't imagine any less waste to get them here safely.
OEM packaging is good. When one orders, say, 20 HDs, they come in one pallet, packed much like the Radeons You ordered. Swiftech also uses plain cardboard box. Zalman has much bling-bling, the packages are just like e_dawg mentioned in the 1st post. Painful to open, and sometimes cannot be closed once opened.

The newer retail GFX card packages are ridiculous. Damned huge compared to what's inside.

Tannin, one of my friends bought a Duron few months back. It was in this tiny plastic holder, which seemed like "too skimpy" for the job. But You were talking about retail XP CPUs with coolers, right?

Cheers,

Jan
 

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Had to deal with the plastic packaging from hell this weekend.
For a $15 mouse, which incidentally fits its need quite well. Link is to best buy but I got it at target for $14.99.

I needed a 'real' mouse for use with the laptop.
When designing forms and what not and doing pixel specific work, the touchpad or pointing stick were not cutting it.
So I got this little guy which is optical, has a scroll wheel, and a retractable cord, and is tiny (length of my index finger and three fingers wide, about 3/4 size of your basic scroll wheel mouse).
 

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bling-bling:
I believe this originated in the rap world where it referred to the 'stylish' items they wear such as their gold chains and such.
It has since extended to the 'phat' customizations on cars such as chrome wheels and 'tricked out' interiors.
Lately the term has also showed up in some tv shows in a more general usage to mean any extra-ordinary flashy stuff.
 

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Mercutio said:
WTF is "bling-bling"?

LOL... I couldn't wait to hear this one. I can't believe you were serious... man, this forum is so white-bread

Bling bling? Gold chains, Escalade, 22" chrome BB's, brutha be stackin and mackin'... a P.I.M.P.

Bling bling is all about pretentiousness and showing off. It's about the status symbol. Over the top. It's about outdoing the other chumps. It's about "damn that's sick, dog. That's hype."
 

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Mercutio said:
WTF is "bling-bling"?

Well I'll be damned. I thought bling-bling was one of those pandas trying to breed in the zoo.
 

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LOL! That's just something picked up from forums...

Tea, much nicer sound is CAAA---SSHH! :lol:

Cheers,

Jan
 

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what is colour is it something we do not understand or is it something we will not wish to understand .
 
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