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One thing to keep in mind is that when the Democrats have done this in the past, it was largely symbolic. In 2004 nobody disputed that Bush won the election. In 2020 there was an ongoing movement, led by Trump, to reverse the election results. Thankfully only AZ and PA even came up for a vote...

The thing is I don't particularly care if Biden distorted facts somewhat or not since all politicians do this during campaigns. Trump claimed when asked that he took the virus very seriously. Now was this him walking back what he said earlier, as he often does when it damages him, or how he...

What we won't know until the data are released is how effective the newest vaccines are at preventing serious disease. While their numbers at preventing immunity are far less than the two dose vaccines, if they're as effective at preventing serious disease they will still be a very useful tool...

There's a difference between inaction due to lack of information, versus spreading outright falsehoods. Trump started off handling the pandemic as well as can reasonably be expected. So did other leaders. Unfortunately, there was a serious lack of information about how dangerous this virus was...

The key here is were any of the BLM and Antifa people involved in insurrection? From my point of view they were just acting like common criminals, rioting or looting, not storming a government building with the intent to overturn an election. If any Trump supporters who were just committing...

Micromanaging is Cuomo's thing, unfortunately. Sometimes a hands off approach is better.

I'll readily admit a lot of the evidence against people, including Trump, might be legally insufficient to convict them in a court of law. However, convictions aside, anyone who took any part in this should be removed from public office, and made ineligible to ever run for public office again...

It'll probably take at least 50% vaccination rates before we even have a chance of achieving herd immunity but at least the daily increase in vaccinations is a step in the right direction.

Far left generally means commies and the like. Give the Dems some time to condemn this. Or borrowing from the GOP playbook, maybe these were MAGAs in far left attire posing as left wing activists. At this point, it seems when one side starts something, the other side takes advantage of it. I...

Well, I think I mentioned somewhere that the day Trump's followers turn on him will be the day he regrets he was born. To paraphrase him, these are very bad people. Not the kind you want pissed off at you.

I briefly turned on OANN. They weren't even covering Biden's inauguration. Instead, they were touting the accomplishments of Trump's term, with Rudy Giuliani stating that historians will eventually see Trump as one of the best Presidents ever. Honestly, if I didn't know any better, I would have...

Thankfully no drama today in DC or at state capitols by Trump supporters. Trump is gone, Biden is President. The national nightmare is over, finally. Maybe now the US can try to earn back some of the respect it lost over the last four years.

It's no secret he was probably perpetuating the "stop the steal" lies to use the office of US President to grift. He does have about $400 million in personal obligations coming due not long after leaving office. This is going to put a damper on that...

There's also the 14th Amendment, Section 3: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress...

Stopping the cash flow is the best way to end this. Without donations, the fringe elements of the GOP can't win elections. That might encourage the Republican voters to select more mainstream candidates in their primaries, or simply get used to losing elections.

Hey, they finally found evidence of election fraud:

Of course some of them are pushing the narrative that this was Antifa dressed up as MAGAs. You accuse others of what you're guilty of yourself. It's the oldest trick in the book. How about the known fact that many of the rioters and looters were from right-wing groups trying to discredit BLM? Or...

This is huge: https://www.businessinsider.com/mcconnell-doesnt-want-to-speak-to-trump-again-capitol-riots-2021-1 McConnell has been practically a lapdog to Trump since day one. He's jumping ship. I suspect a lot of other Senate Republicans who respect him will do the same. Maybe the votes...

1. Probably not enough time, and almost certainly not enough votes to remove him from office if he is impeached. Removal from office requires a 2/3rds majority in both the Senate and House. 2. So far Pence doesn't look like he's interested, and the votes might not be there. 3. The threat of 1 or...

And by the way, this isn't a D versus R debate. If this election had been, say, Romney or Kasich versus Biden, I could fully understand a vote for one of the former. I might even have gone that way. I can't understand a vote for a wannabe mentally unstable autocrat of either party who already...

Any comments on this? https://news.yahoo.com/six-republican-lawmakers-among-rioters-225945766.html I don't recall any Democratic lawmakers joining the people who were rioting and looting this summer.

4 people died, one by gun shot, three by medical events. Materially, the impact of what happened Wednesday was small. However, the intent wasn't, regardless of the end result. Listen to what Trump and Giuliani said before it happened. However poorly this was thought out, it was an attempted...

Because many of those same LEOs are Trump supporters. We had the same thing in NY. Trump supporters disrupted traffic with parades of big, obnoxious SUVs and pickups, many with obscured license plates, and the NYPD did squat...

And you do know a fair amount of these illegal activities were done by far right groups trying to discredit the peaceful BLM protesters? Others were done by career criminals who simply took advantage of the situation. Little or none of it was done by the same BLM protesters who were out earlier...

This is supposedly the party of law and order. Nothing the BLM protesters or Antifa did is even close to this. We're looking at sedition. Those involved should be tried, found guilty, and hanged. That includes President Trump himself.

You know what they say, right? Give someone like Trump enough rope, and they'll eventually hang themselves. For all the talk of him running again in 2024, it's going to be all he can do just to stay out of jail once he leaves office. Ditto for his three oldest kids. Maybe they'll turn one of the...

Also, given his long list of pre-existing health conditions, if he caught coronavirus his odds of pulling through were relatively low. I hope he's OK, and just not posting because he lost interest. Dave hasn't posted in a while, either. And SD left in the spring and hasn't come back. I'm glad...

Merc, Great to see you around! It's been a long time!

Trump is hiding in the basement, gorging on fast food, and raging that the election was stolen from him. At this point he's incapable of doing anything here, or offering any words worth listening to. The hallmarks of his administration have been inaction (except for things he considered...

Nice portraits! Here's one of Mitch McConnell I found:

The Supreme Court rejected the Texas suit as well: https://www.npr.org/2020/12/11/945617913/supreme-court-shuts-door-on-trump-election-prospects Now is this nonsense finally, really, over? I don't care if Trump concedes or not. He lost the election. Period. Time to get on with life.

Hopefully this fiasco really is over now: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/us/supreme-court-republican-challenge-pennsylvania-vote.html

I actually stayed up until Trump was declared the winner. On the one hand, I was worried but hoped Trump might grow into the role (obviously he didn't). On the other, I was no fan of Hillary Clinton, so it wasn't like I was so sad that she lost. I was actually singing "Ding Dong The Witch Is...

When even Fox News won't support Trump you know how far off base these allegations are.

At this point if they're going to vote for candidates like Trump it's better if they don't bother voting at all. It doesn't say much for the people who voted for him that think he's a good representative of our country. I've heard that a stable democracy depends upon an educated voting base...

Last time for me was 42½ years ago. I don't plan to move again.

My point is that it's really a stretch to make a case to prove there was enough fraud even in one state where Biden won by a relatively slim margin to flip the results, never mind to do so in enough states to change the election results. And it works both ways. If you're going to start claiming...

Let me play Devil's Advocate for a moment. Let's ignore everything time wrote, let's assume those were all "fake" ballots filled out for Biden, and let's assume there were enough of them to flip the state of Georgia. So what? Biden still wins the election, except he wins 290-248 instead of...

Given how little we knew about the virus then going for herd immunity made no sense at all. For starters, we still don't know how long a person is immune to it once they get it. If it's only a matter of months, herd immunity can never work unless everyone in the country got it within a few...

I was thinking the same. As far as I know nobody on the Supreme Court has the qualifications to evaluate covid-related restrictions with regard to their efficacy. It's just the "new" Supreme court flexing their muscles. I'm really disappointed that the GOP rushed the appointment of a religious...

Not being able to enforce them is as good as them not even existing. Also, leadership starts at the top. If the governor of a state doesn't offer good guidance, a lot of people won't comply with voluntary guidelines.

By the way it's stuff like this that I'm mostly referring to when I talk about "misguided notions of freedom and choice": https://news.yahoo.com/florida-governor-ron-desantis-accused-180518736.html The Florida governor not only won't enact a statewide mask mandate, but won't even let...

Just staying home with my mother as usual, no visitors. Same for Christmas. If we're lucky Easter might be somewhat normal. Let's just hope they get the vaccine to enough people by then.

The government has a very far reaching set of powers to deal with emergencies like this: https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/commentary/constitutional-guide-emergency-powers It sounds like the Supreme Court ruled against treating religious gatherings differently than so-called essential...

Unfortunately, since we have none of those things the only option is to shut down-again-to slow the spread of the virus. Trump and his followers have the ideology that government is bad, or at best useless. By putting incompetents into positions of power, that has become a self-fulfilling...

This is probably as close to a concession as we'll ever get from Trump: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/527278-trump-tells-gsa-to-allow-biden-transition-to-begin

People traveling for the holidays are another big problem. If we had a sane government response we would have shut down the airlines a week ago until early next year, and restricted travel on Interstate highways to only essential workers. The government may not have to explicitly ban gatherings...

Actually my cat is claiming Trump lost the election because the Democats had fake ballots with Biden's name trucked in. The Republicats supposedly turned out in record numbers. That might be most of Trump's votes. Easy for him to please cats. Just promise them a warm bed, a place to poop, and a...

Sometimes you never know about the people (or animals) you're sharing a roof with. Turns out my cat Jeannie is an avid Trump supporter: She even snuck out to go to Trump rallies. Her last covid-19 test was positive, which she undoubtedly caught at a rally, so I tried to make her wear a mask...