Need help with getting a phone

jtr1962

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I'm finally coming into the 21st century and getting a mobile phone. I already have Verizon for Internet, TV, and my landline. Verizon has an offer of 90 days free mobile service for existing customers but you need a phone to take advantage of it. I'm leaning towards getting an iPhone 14 on eBay to take advantage of this plan. Will I need an unlocked phone? I'm assuming I will.
 

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iOS is evil and should not be countenanced.

Some fun things to know:
There are three and a half real phone carriers in the US, Tmobile, Verizon, AT&T and the half is US Cellular, which is only available in some parts of the US Midwest.

There are DOZENS of MVNOs, resellers of services from one of the big three. Some of the resellers are just subsidiaries of the main-line carriers. For example Boost and Mint are both owned by Tmo directly. Other carriers can use more than one network, but your phone will never be active on multiple networks at the same time unless you're paying for access via more than one SIM.

When you're buying a plan, be aware that you definitely qualify for AARP/55+ discounts at the very least, and may have more qualifying discounts based on being a Rutgers alum or possibly a union member.

You can definitely overbuy on 4G/5G data coverage, which you will only use when you're not on a local network. Maybe take a couple months to get a handle on what your normal usage looks like. 10GB might be plenty for you, but you may also need 30GB or 50GB of data service. Start with a pay as you go plan to get an idea of what you need.

Many non-premium phone plans are deprioritized. This means your calls could drop or data service slowed if a cell tower becomes busy with requests from premium plan subscribers of a given network operator. In practice, I'm aware that this is why I was nearly always able to use my phone and data service at places like Obama's 2004 victory party in Chicago and at Lollapalooza; I'm on a premium subscriber tier and most people aren't. Honestly, most plans that are on any kind of discount from normal rates from the actual carriers are deprioritized.

Tmobile has the actual fastest network and tends to work well in urban and suburban areas.
Verizon's network isn't fast, but it has the most towers overall, so Verizon often works in places where no other carrier does. In Chicago, Verizon phones will be the only ones that get a signal on the underground portions of the El. Verizon also charges the most money for everything always.
AT&T has nothing to recommend it, being neither all that fast nor having amazing coverage. It's kind of always $5 cheaper than Verizon.

I'd encourage absolutely anyone to look at MVNOs over primary carriers. Mint/Boost, US Mobile, Vision, Tello, Google Fi, all have good offerings.

You should also be aware that not all carriers support RCS Texting. This is something you have to specifically ask about if you care. RCS allows for full-quality binaries to be texted between Android devices, but also newer iphones. This is a big deal in particular because Apple has in the past gone out of its way to degrade the quality of binary messages delivered between its network (iMessage) and the SMS network not-Apple uses.

You can buy unlocked phones, which does nicely solve the issue of choice in network provider. Locked phones are sometimes cheaper and carriers DO have to unlock them if the phone is paid for. I try to avoid used phones for myself but they are a decent way to save money. Phones are a total PITA to work on since they're all basically glass sandwiches now, so I'd rather buy with an eye toward getting a new battery than anything else.

If you buy an iphone, get Applecare for it it because parts procurement for third party components is a nightmare.

If you buy a Samsung phone, get a Samsung+ plan for it. I think these are only available on phones bought directly through Samsung, but they deliver to Best Buy if you'd like. I paid $100 for two years of coverage when I got my S24.

In either case, the main reason for this is broken screens. Even if you're comfortable doing electronics repair, the devices are extremely hard to take apart without special tools.
 

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Thanks for making me aware of 55+ plans. I thought most discounts didn't start until 65. I'm a Princeton alumni actually.

My brother broke his iPhone screen multiple times but did his own repairs. He's not even an EE like me. I'm going to be mostly using the phone in case of emergencies, and also for the rare times anyone tries to reach me at home but I'm out. So hopefully no broken screens but I'll still think about a service plan. The three free months should give me an idea of my needs for a long-term plan. When I'm home I'll just be using Wifi. The subway and buses also have Wifi which works with any carrier.

I will look into MVNOs once the trial period is over.

I've been wondering for ages why my brother drops out in certain locations. Now I know why. He doesn't have premium service. Almost like clockwork when he enters the Cross Island he'll get disconnected.

What would be the Samsung equivalent, more or less, to an iPhone 14? I'm not necessarily wedded to Apple.

Thanks for all the useful info!
 

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A Samsung S23/23+ is worth about the same amount as an iphone 14.
You can also find Samsung S24FE, a Pixel 8 or 9a or 2025 Moto G Power for somewhere between $300 and $400.

Another curious option is the Samsung A56, which isn't MEANT to be sold in the USA, but can used on US networks. The A5x phones have been my go-to recommendation for most people, as the biggest difference between those and the flagship S-series models was typically having a lower resolution screen. Samsung FE models offer better performance for slightly higher price than the A5x models, but the difference is pretty minor overall.

Google Phones are typically lower spec than Samsung at similar price points, but they have very well optimized software. Google does give reasonably long software support to its older models, usually providing about five years for its hardware. Newer Samsung phones are often given five or seven years of support. Most other Android handsets are only given one or two years.

Motorola phones have poor software support compared to anything else, but the G Power series has a massive battery that needs less attention than basically anything else.

There are also so fantastic options if you're willing to consider Chinese brands that aren't marketed for sale in the US.
 

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A Samsung S23/23+ is worth about the same amount as an iphone 14.
You can also find Samsung S24FE, a Pixel 8 or 9a or 2025 Moto G Power for somewhere between $300 and $400.

Another curious option is the Samsung A56, which isn't MEANT to be sold in the USA, but can used on US networks. The A5x phones have been my go-to recommendation for most people, as the biggest difference between those and the flagship S-series models was typically having a lower resolution screen. Samsung FE models offer better performance for slightly higher price than the A5x models, but the difference is pretty minor overall.

Google Phones are typically lower spec than Samsung at similar price points, but they have very well optimized software. Google does give reasonably long software support to its older models, usually providing about five years for its hardware. Newer Samsung phones are often given five or seven years of support. Most other Android handsets are only given one or two years.

Motorola phones have poor software support compared to anything else, but the G Power series has a massive battery that needs less attention than basically anything else.

There are also so fantastic options if you're willing to consider Chinese brands that aren't marketed for sale in the US.
I actually ended up getting a used (very good condition) refurbished iPhone 14 on eBay for $326.46. I needed to pull the trigger because the first thing I'll be using it for is investing. I'll keep all the options you mentioned for future use, or if the phone breaks. It's coming Tuesday. I should be able to set it up for Verizon's 90 day free trial. If not, I'll be back to ask for help.
 
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