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  1. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    My, my, what a suggestion! I won't end up in Heaven doing what you say. But I won't get any more freezes. This is a more immediate need for me! There is a BestBuy 1 1/2 miles from me, and that is where I bought my Toshiba laptop.
  2. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    It makes me feel less isolated, knowing that freezing pcs are here to stay. The reason I don't order a new CPU, MB, PSU and RAM, video card and network card, which would be the easiest way to get around a misbehaving pc, is that I have the system that JTR1962 and another guy built for me...
  3. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    My dilemma is that I don't know anybody who has these spare parts in the arsenal. Anything I do from now on will have to be out of pocket with the added risk that it will not help. I'm OK with this, though. But I still want to proceed with baby steps, until only one component is left...
  4. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Is a drive installed in Apr. 2011 considered to be "old?" I am also up for disconnecting the Win 7 drive and returning the primary XP drive into service. But why not disconnect the primary XP drive along with the Win 7 drive, and boot using the secondary XP drive which I hardly used as a boot...
  5. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Do you mean the sage heads, besides you and I? Haa haa! I want to be a sage head and aspire to become one when I grow up. You're making me nervouse with your newest "CPU From Hell" scenario. Once I get a handle on MY freezing pc, I would be happy to assist you in stopping YOUR freezing. If...
  6. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Thank you, I can handle Memtest myself. Let me get this straight, if Memtest comes back with a clean report on my memory, then what will be my next plan of action?
  7. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I can surely disconnect the 2 WD XP drives and leave the Samsung Win 7 drive intact in the case. Jtr1962 suggested this when I first started getting freezes, but I didn't see the logic it is. What is the logic in it, anyway? If I do this and still get a freeze, does it mean the drive is...
  8. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I know of no "trustworthy" person from whom I can buy a "proven" MB. If I did, and I was sure that I needed a MB, I would jump on it. Do you believe that a manufacturer is by nature "not trustworthy?" If you/we did, we would live in empty domiciles. Bottom line, I'm up for anything to stop...
  9. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Before I acquired the Samsung drive and installed Win 7 on it, I had a mirror RAID array linking the 2 WD drives with XP that I bought for the new pc build in Apr. 2009. The array failed right after I interrupted the last phase of a system restore, when it took forever for the desktop icons...
  10. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I probably confused you in my post above. I meant to say that I used to turn the PSU OFF before the freezes started. But now that I am diagnosing the problem, I leave the PSU ON. This, along with the surge protector's Master switch being left ON, keeps the MB energized and should retain...
  11. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Yes Sir, I knew that. But what about this little tidbit of news..... With the pc shut down, I pulled the power cord out of the back of the 1992 vintage Kensington MasterPiece Plus surge protector and plugged it into the six socket 1997 vintage Kensington Model K62152 SmartSockets surge...
  12. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I will definitely do whatever is necessary to eliminate the CPU and RAM as possible culprits. BingBangBop is happy with my temp. result. But I'm sure that more has to be done to test the CPU. Intel's Processor Diagnostic Tool seems to be the way to go, but it is a tedious program for a guy who...
  13. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I stand corrected. Since I have been working hard to get rid of the freezes, I no longer turn the PSU's rocker switch to the OFF position after I go to hibernate or shut down. Since my modem and router are plugged into the surge protector and so is the PSU, I keep the Master switch ON and turn...
  14. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    This is a tall order to fill, even if I had a spare hard drive. The word "clean" is the operative word when wanting to solve my problem. Surely, a reliable drive with a virgin OS and the proper device drivers working in a system of hardware that is questionable, is the way to eliminate the...
  15. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    OK, so the CPU is working well. I thank you for the education on the accurate definition of TJ Max. I was thinking that a 50 C reading was AT TJ Max. This is new to me, so I stumbled a little. I now see that the 50 C value is how far the CPU's temp. has to rise to reach Intel's maximum temp...
  16. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Funny thing about my patience and willingness to accept anything in life only after there is no doubt in my mind that it is true. I am not convinced that it is the MB. If I was as quick to replace parts as most of you here, I would not have learned anything in life that matters. Stubornness...
  17. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I agree that under no circumstance in the running of a pc, should the CMOS lose it's settings, unless the CMOS backup battery is missing or dead. My battery is only two months old. The glitchy power failure even bypassed the positive role of the battery. How did it do that?
  18. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    So did my 12 hours of general pc use in safe mode without a freeze, not provide evidence that I don't have a hardware problem?
  19. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    You know that I won't buy ANY high tech. device in used condition. But you made a good point about upgrading the CPU and memory along with a new MB. This makes sense in order to keep up with the fast pace of technology. These 3 items are the most important of a pc's core components. You'll...
  20. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Due to the amount of work involved in a MB replacement, I'm going to hold off on this item and pursue the diagnostic tests suggested by the others.
  21. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    OK, more feedback for you. I just completed a 30 min. CPU Burn-In session, with an open window for each core. I confirmed 100% CPU usage in Task manager's Performance tab. Using Real Temp, the CPU cores before the burn-in were 40 C each. Near the 30 min. mark for the burn-in, the CPU cores...
  22. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Is anybody impressed by the fact that I have NOT had a freeze in almost 12 hours, while using my pc in safe mode the same way as I use it in GUI, with the exception being lack of internet access? Maybe I am not fully aware of the differences between the way all hardware in a system is being...
  23. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    If the others had expressed your belief that the ONLY culprit could be the MB, then Newegg would have a replacement MB on it's way to me as we speak.
  24. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Based on your post, it sounds like my idea of using CPU Burn-In while doing a full AVG scan and a defrag. simultaneously would be enough to stress the CPU and raise it's temp. I have to open the program twice, one for each core. I always keep an eye on the Task Manager's Performance tab.
  25. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I also wish I was half my age, but not for the same reason as you propose! "Probably" forget the driver route? The CPU temp has always been within range. The ethernet section is integrated with the MB. I could buy a card that plugs into an available slot. Thanks for the CMOS setting...
  26. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Based on my post #22, the network, or should I say ethenet section of the MB, is no longer suspect. Thank you for coddling me, though. Like you, I have never seen CMOS settings reset and hard drives and fans stop spinning for any reason, except sleep mode, hibernate or shut down. I have done...
  27. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    How could I forget that for the first time, safe mode has offered me about 8 different screen resolutions from which to choose. I have never seen this before. It's always opened at 800 x 640 and I didn't think I had a choice. I wish I did all along. A low resolution is terrible when...
  28. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Hello all, I took a break yesterday, after a long day slaving over my desktop. This morning I removed the yellow cable connecting the ethernet port to the wireless router.....and I got a freeze a short while later. Most of you were right that my problem is not network related. This is the...
  29. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Using Real Temp, core 0 = 41 C and core 1 = 39 C Cool as a cucumber!
  30. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Oh boy, you really know how to UPGRADE like a champ!!! Of all the words you used to describe pc parts, the only one that put a smile on my face is "SSD." How about we chew the fat about this "luxury item", after my freezes stop? My mind is a little "overloaded" right now. Haa haa! I used...
  31. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Before I started having freezes, I was about to download a temp. program to play pc doctor a little. Is the one you recommend above called "Real Temp, or is this a general term? By the way, I had a freeze while writing this post the 1st time....and I was naturally ONLINE when it happened.
  32. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    I understand all the opinions about my communication path not having the means to cause freezes. But I can only state that I have never had a freeze when OFFLINE, although I have never been patient enough to stay OFFLINE for 6 hours or so. Maybe it needs that long to fail? I would be puzzled...
  33. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Despite all the suggestions that I have an MB, PS, CPU or RAM problem, replacing an integrated ethernet card with an independent one is a good first step. Actually, I dread replacing the MB the most, because of the amount of work required. Everything else is a piece of cake on labor and...
  34. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    It freezes when it wants, many times a day if I remain online. When I uninstalled Avast AV and installed AVG AV, there were no freezes for about 20 hours. When I disabled/enabled the ethernet card from within Device Manager, there were no freezes for about 8 hours. Knowing the risk of being...
  35. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Thank you as well, BingBangBop. I wrote a reply post, but it never showed up here. So here is my 2nd attempt. I never used the mouse properties "Snap To" feature, but made sure the box was unchecked anyway. In fact, by definition, checking it will "Automatically move pointer to the default...
  36. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Thank you as well, BingBangBop. I never used the "Snap To" mouse feature, but made sure the box was unchecked anyway. The mouse doesn't "Automatically move the pointer to the default button in a dialog box", it migrates to the place where it feels comfortable. It does this very quickly...
  37. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Thank you, MaxBurn. I did a spot check for bulging/leaking capacitors, and my "untrained eyes" told me all is well. My buddy, jtr1962, had to replace some of his motherboard's capacitors when his pc would suddenly "shut down." He started a thread about it here. I will consult with him. My...
  38. apairofpcs

    Desktop pc freezes when using either Win XP or Win 7 OSs

    Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, This is my first post on a pc related forum. The decision to write was long overdue. My problem has plagued me for the last two months. My desktop pc has been freezing without warning, disabling the mouse and keyboard and forcing me to restart by pressing the...
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