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Bill: First, always be suspicious of advice given by a baby orange Furball. :wink: I'm not going to argue with any of his comments, since you are in Oz. Pricing here is 15 bucks between the 160 and 320 LSI cards, 85 vs. 103, that's why I defur to Furball on this issue. :mrgrn: :wink: As...

ENJOY! Looks great... s

Fair enough. I bought the refurbed P650 from newegg for 150 dollars, and it's worked great, since. Anyone know if the 400 series is a clear as the P550 or P650? S

BILL :excl: :mrgrn:

http://www.matrox.com/mga/archive_review/jul2003/pseries_globetechnology.cfm Search the forum for Matrox P650, and between Splash, and myself, you will have enough information, and discussion, for a good decision...

NOT MUCH. SCSI HAS NEVER BEEN CHEAPER, OR, FOR THAT MANNER, BETTER. s

Well, kept me posted. It's going to be quite awhile before I upgrade the processor, or put together another computer. So, by the time I feel like going dual, they should have another bios, or perfected the older ones.... Not to mention, it's great to know that down the road, I can go to the...

Well, kept me posted. It's going to be quite awhile before I upgrade the processor, or put together another computer. So, by the time I feel like going dual, they should have another bios, or perfected the older ones.... s

Ok, now it's 40 bucks cheaper then when I bought it... http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11030435&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=21385&hierPath=84*21385* 79 dollars... s

Will: I was incorrect on the Nvidia 3 not supporting the X2 processors, and, you are right that the bios upgrades for GAK8NULTRA9 will support X2's. Excellent news. You should be able to find a cable and terminator, two or three position for 20 bucks, and a terminator for the same. Giant is a...

Thanks Liam. I didn't see the GA-K8ns Ultra 939 on the X2 supported list on Gigabyte's website. Looks Like the current bios upgrade is the F7, and, you just gave me really good news. I CAN upgrade a Nvidia 3 motherboard to X2, and, considering I have that board, and a Gk8nSC 939, and, now...

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?pid=11155&sid=148C3UVTPV5T9HR7PCP15J0K80BKENUD and same site has an 800 card for less... s

Liam: isn't the Gigabyte K8NS Ultra-939 a single processor only board, with Nvidia 3 chipset? I didn't think it supported the X2 processor... Thanks GS

Adacadet: Look around and do a little research. Depending upon who's doing the testing, http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1808&page=9 depends on what game, and what price, is the best value card. Also keep in mind Pci-E cards are less expensive then AGP...

Depends on your needs, but looking forward, that's a very good choice. Between Computer Giants and www.hypermicro.com you should be able to get either a 36 gig Cheetah, or whatever, for a good price. In the long run, scsi drives are, well, let's just say all mine are still working, even...

Me too, but the new ATI cards are SO fast, it's hard to compare them to the last version, value wise. s

I like the 256 mb versions, and, they are so good, I wouldn't consider a 9800 or less, since they are half the speed of the 700XL. s

No info on Nvidia. Ati 700Xl with AMD processors seems to light it up. 200 when I bought it. 800 XL is twice as fast, but, it's 300-350 dollars. Your choice.... s

I didn't realize it, but the Sony cost three times the NEC, and works half as well. Thank God for Costco, except, they purchased the POS in the first place... s

Computer giants does list, but not everything. They often have very good prices, or do something like you pay for a refurb, and get a new 36k instead... s

OT P's icon in his sig is Sargent Schultz, a comic Stalag supervisor, German, from a comedy show, in the US, about american prisoners that ran the prison, pretty much, and, it was funny., "Stalag 13", IIRC. The quick German bashing, followed by the quick OT P post, with the icon he used...

I recently purchased a CF-51 for 1100 dollars, to replace an aging CF-37 366 mhz, both Panasonic Toughbooks. You might ebay for a Panasonic. Anyway, for regular functions, not including voice activated typing software, I found 600 mhz was adequate for just about all functions, with 1.25 gigs of...

How much money do you want to spend, how big a screen? Voice activated typing, seems to me, took more then an Athlon 1.4 gig processor, last time I tried it. Anyone else given it a shot? What are you using the voice activated typing program on, currently? s

I can't hear much from any of my drives, in particular, the P160 case does a great job of keeping things quiet, with rubber mounting, etc. Server is a quiet hum.... Actually, I have 5 Cheetah X 15 18 gigs, I think they are generation 15.2 or 3, and they are quite decent as boot drives. I...

Well, it's just more planned Obselecence. Or PO if you would. In fact, the change in chipsets, etc. is starting to make the PC side look like the mac side, except it's mac software that drives the changes, and, it's the hardware side driving MSFT to change... s

ROFL!!! :mrgrn:

Well, I bought it at Costco. guess it's going back... s

What he said^ LSI card is a steal, and it works just fine, plus it's SCSI 320, which means you can take it with you. I think I got mine from www.ewiz.com Supermicro shipped their SCA box with a red cable, about 20-30 bucks from your local frys, along with a simple scsi terminator, also...

Hi I went over to the NEC 3520 burners, two in each machine, and, I thought I would go over my general impressions, aside from the usual review type stuff. The Sony had pretty much determined how I ripped stuff around here. Since I use my extensive DVD library at school, I was not about to...

So: The processor means a Gigabyte Nvidia 4 based motherboard, SLI might not be a bad idea, expensive ram, so you can overclock, and, I wonder if two gigs of ram might not be a better idea then one, since you might need it for multiple applications, a high quality power supply, probably the...

Hi Will Hope you went over the picCOLOR test. "Scores in picCOLOR, by the way, are indexed against a single-processor Pentium III 1GHz system, so that a score of 4.14 works out to 4.14 times the performance of the reference machine." Gives you a pretty good idea, in this task at least, of...

Similar time DVD's, with similar copy write protections, same program, and same firmware. This observation was made after a number of ripping and burning tasks. Both systems are set for foreground task priority. Same version of DVD Decryptor, the latest,, 3540. This is a general pattern...

One other note: The ripping process is a VERY good benchmark, since I'm using the same NEC 3520 DVD players, same interface, ATA, same amount of ram, and both systems have scsi 320 hard drives, and, both are using the 36 gig Cheetah's to run from. s

Well, the Athlon uses consistently around 32-40% doing DVD Decryptor, Power DVD, Firefox, and Task manager. Dual Xeons are doing the same, and I'm typing on the xeons, and it's running at about 11-13%. "Granted, Greg can run a second Shrink process and it'll start on his other CPU, but does...

Hi Just for reference: The Athlon 3000+ rips DVD's at about half the speed of the dual Xeons, and that's while playing another DVD, and typing this. s

It's ok, Tea. Blame it on Tannin: If he would get you the proper keyboard, you wouldn't have problems typing. Do you have to use a pencil, and hit the keys with the eraser? S

WOW!! That's a great price on a Supermicro motherboard :excl: Then I look at the processor prices :roll: Intel, anti-competitive business practices? Say it ain't so, Joe... :wink: s

Counterpoint: AMD pricing may NOT go down much. By changing sockets, and making one obselete right after they start producing it, they are keeping the motherboard makers jumping, and, they are keeping the supply down on their processors, so they can keep prices up. As long as they continue to...

Server quality stuff is not desktop PC stuff. My X5DA8 is out of date? I'm crushed. Gee, the new ATI 800 XL works just fine in it... Xeon 2.8 ghz processors have dropped about 120 dollars from the time I bought mine, less actually, since that's oem, and mine were retail, at 350, so the...

Will: Video cards are going to PCI-E 16X. ANOTHER AREA of bleeding edge. So, you have a 939 going dark, 64 bit OS not really ready for prime time, SLI not perfected, etc. Too many different technologies that are on the bleeding edge, in short supply, leading to elevated prices. Motherboards...

The H8DCE looks REALLY cool.... s

Mubs: I stand corrected. At that price, now all you need to make sure is the motherboard takes the dual core, which, with my luck, mine won't... :evil: As I suspected, the Nvidia 3 chipset doesn't support, at least on Gigabyte boards, 64 bit X2 processors. So, I'm yesterdays news, today...

MEOW :excl: :mrgrn: :roll: S

Ahh, NO :lol: I have BOTH the S12 600 watt, in the dual machine, and, a 400 watt in the Athlon 3000+. Both machines have Swiftech coolers, but, the 3000+ stays cooler, thanks to being, well, cooler... :roll: I picked up the last 400 Watt from our local frys, with 20% off, it came to 59.00...

Ok: Being cheap is my specialty. First, you you changed to a PCI-E motherboard, that is good. I am typing on a machine very similar to what you want to construct. Great case, same one I'm using. Try and get a 400w or 500w, if you are going dual core, Seasonic power supply. More expensive...

Hmmm. From what I've been able to gather, Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden DVD-R are the way to go. Fuji=Taiyo Yuden DVD-R, so either should work well. Guess Sony is ok, but around here, I can't find any of em, so they are out. Check and make sure they say "made in Japan?" Thanks gs

Ny version of kayaks.... http://www.rawsonsurfboards.com/boards.html :wink: s

Actually, this is a far more liberal community then that. We have Dolphins, Orange people, Owls, etc. In fact, we english speaking humans maybe in the definite minority. We even have 15th Century Dead Italians running around... :wink: Computer Generated Babies, Giants, etc. I forgot my...

Hi Thanks to Mercutio, I traded in my single Sony burner for a couple NEC 3520's. They seem to burn Memorex DVD-R's that my sony wouldn't, and overall seem to be much more media forgiving. What are your favorite single layer DVD-R disks for the NEC burners? Thanks s

I forgot to mention: MUCH better to be illegal, then legal here. To actually become a legal US citizen takes years of buercrappacy to get through. s