Big Brother commeth...
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ddrueding
Fixture
And that showed up just in time to bump telecom immunity from the headlines. Looks like it's trash day.
jtr1962
Storage? I am Storage!
You ever think this bill will even see the light of day? The cost of compliance would put most small retailers out of business.
ddrueding
Fixture
When was the last time that slowed them down?
Fushigi
Storage Is My Life
Not to mention the cost to handle - collect, store, archive, query, and ultimately act upon - the data would be higher than the funds raised.
And how would this raise funds? It doesn't. In our credit-heavy society there's nothing at all that ties a persons income to their spending levels (or, seemingly, to the amount of credit they can get approved for) so there's no valid way to infer higher income than reported based on credit expenditures.
If this passes I'll stop using my credit & debit cards. Maybe I'll use rolls of nickels when it comes time to buy that HDTV or new car. I would think the implications of lost business for etailers and increased processing costs for not only merchants but card processors and issuing banks would cause them to lobby against it.
Furthermore, how is this not a violation of privacy? Granted, the right to privacy is mostly implied and not specifically declared in the fourth amendment, but the judicial branch has interpreted the language to mean we've a right to privacy. Right now if I use a credit card to buy something online, only me, the merchant, and the payment card companies have any knowledge of the transaction. This is not publicly observable data; it is private by nature. It matters not if I'm purchasing porn or iPods; there's nothing about the transaction that the government has any reasonable right to know about.
And how would this raise funds? It doesn't. In our credit-heavy society there's nothing at all that ties a persons income to their spending levels (or, seemingly, to the amount of credit they can get approved for) so there's no valid way to infer higher income than reported based on credit expenditures.
If this passes I'll stop using my credit & debit cards. Maybe I'll use rolls of nickels when it comes time to buy that HDTV or new car. I would think the implications of lost business for etailers and increased processing costs for not only merchants but card processors and issuing banks would cause them to lobby against it.
Furthermore, how is this not a violation of privacy? Granted, the right to privacy is mostly implied and not specifically declared in the fourth amendment, but the judicial branch has interpreted the language to mean we've a right to privacy. Right now if I use a credit card to buy something online, only me, the merchant, and the payment card companies have any knowledge of the transaction. This is not publicly observable data; it is private by nature. It matters not if I'm purchasing porn or iPods; there's nothing about the transaction that the government has any reasonable right to know about.
ddrueding
Fixture
I agree with you Fushigi, but I don't think that matters either.
The masses have become stupid enough that it no longer matters what the laws say or what the smart people know. I have completely lost hope; and that means that someone way worse than terrorists have won.
The masses have become stupid enough that it no longer matters what the laws say or what the smart people know. I have completely lost hope; and that means that someone way worse than terrorists have won.
Stereodude
Not really a
Just remember what political party brought you this bill next time you're at the ballot box.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Yes, because the wastes of Free Will and Oxygen that are Republicans have done SO MUCH in the name of freedom, privacy and security in the last 8 years.
Stereodude
Not really a
I didn't say that. Frankly they both suck. But, we don't need a Housing bail out. We don't need to extend unemployment benefits 13 weeks. Neither political party can control their spending.
