Blacklight Power Inc

[Howell]

http://www.blacklightpower.com/

 

[Will Rickards]

:eekers:
For real? How long till I see it powering my house or car?

 

[LOST6200]

I don't neeed one. I have a clod-fusion generatr in the basement...

 

[Mercutio]

Doesn't fusing clods take up a lot of space?

 

[P5-133XL]

No, put a male clod next to a female clod in a basement, alone, and there will be spontanous fusion. In aprox 9 months, there will be a baby clod; two years and there will be two baby clods; in 5 years there will be four baby clods...

 

[ddrueding]

It's not even that amazing a hoax website. The address listed is a residence (confirmed via maps.google.com), the images can be found many other places via google image search - and there is no context for them in the site, the concepts are pretty clearly preposterous (I've only had 2 years of Physics - years ago), and some of the conclusions are really, really bad.

Were they planning on scamming some funding out of this?

 

[sechs]

The BlackLight Process allows the electron to move closer to the proton.... This generates... plasma (a hot, glowing, ionized gas)

The electron gets closer to *and* removed from the nucleus.

I'd put a lot more faith in IBM's upcoming transporter technology.

 

[LiamC]

No, put a male clod next to a female clod in a basement, alone, and there will be spontanous fusion. In aprox 9 months, there will be a baby clod; two years and there will be two baby clods; in 5 years there will be four baby clods...

That sounds incestuous :eekers: :mrgrn:

Hey Cleetus, git over here!

 

[Sol]

You learn something new everyday... I'd always asumed that clods reproduced asexualy...

Of course if we expose the reproducing and fusing clods to a blacklight we might be able to create some sort of hybrid technology with energy producing efficiency in the hundreds of percents!... [/psudo-scientific babble]

 

[Howell]

I really have no more stake in this than any one else but I'm surprised by the glib and clearly ignorant and uninformed responses. Has everyone stopped critically thinking? Is this stuff just over peoples heads? Are you people more arrogant than I even imagined? It is far easier to be a skeptic than a critic.

http://www.hydrino.org/rules.php

and

Due Diligence

17. Why doesn't Mills publish in peer-reviewed journals like everyone else?

1. Mills has attempted to get physics papers published in mainstream journals but they have been rejected because they fundamentally challenge established quantum theory, a successful challenge to which at this stage is considered, using the term of one journal referee, "unlikely". Mills has published papers in Fusion Technology, but some may not consider this to be a mainstream journal. He has also presented to the American Chemical Society (ACS). Mills has gotten some of his medical technologies papers published in mainstream journals, however. During the year 2000, Mills has submitted a flurry of papers to major journals. Hopefully the reception will be warmer this time around.

Also, because Mills does not face the "publish-or-die" imperative because he is privately funded, he does not appear to be as strongly motivated to publish as a typical research scientist is.

Mills has certainly made available his work to anyone who cares to investigate it in the form of experimental and theoretical papers, and has laid out the whole theory in GUT-CQM. There does not seem to be much question of openness.


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17. I've seen these free-energy and cold fusion scams before. The fact that Mills has a company and is trying to get investments convinces me it is another scam. If this were genuine it should have been submitted to academic review. They are already talking about taking products to market. Why should I believe otherwise when there is a long history of pseudo-science in this field?

1. CQM is not a free-energy theory--conservation of matter-energy and momentum are maintained. CQM is not a theory of cold fusion, although it may underlie the experimental phenomena associated with cold fusion (energy output beyond chemical reaction energy scales).

According to Dr. Farrell, early on in the development of his theory, Mills "lived like a pauper", making a living as a research associate of Dr. Farrell. He has never sought investment from the public (although that is an option in the future), nor tried to sell energy devices to naive hobbyists.

BlackLight Power has outgrown its facilities several times over the past decade. It has an array of legitimate investors including Morgan Stanley, Westinghouse, various power companies, and has drawn interest from the U.S. Navy. The board and executive management team have strong and sober scientific backgrounds, and many of these have jumped ship to BLP from their companies after conducting due diligence on BLP. Various internationally recognized laboratories have replicated experiments (granted, under contract from BLP) and have reported anomalous results. One can dismiss this as a good job of marketing, but clearly a lot of otherwise sensible people have been persuaded to take this very seriously.

Let us consider Mills' dilemma in how to support his research. In an academic environment, Mills would need to secure a series of grants and faculty support for his research into his radical new theory. There is no reason to believe that he would have been able to get the several million dollars he would need in funding as a lone researcher with a radical theory. It is also unlikely that Mills would have been able to continue to receive faculty and administration support for his work from any university under the kind of political pressure that the physics community has been able to generate (e.g., BLP recently had its patents "un-granted" by the Patent Office after some lobbying by certain individuals), particularly when they would be competing for the same grant dollars.

It may be said that Mills "sold out" to private investors whom he was able to get aboard based on the promise of technology applications, and that there are certain intellectual sacrifices that he has to make in order to fulfill his responsibilities to shareholders. This was probably the only realistic option for him. To dismiss Mills simply because he has chosen to pursue his research in this fashion smacks of professional jealousy.


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17. Why won't Mills help me replicate his results? What is he hiding?

1. Mills has been known to help independent researchers replicate. Just because he's not working with you does not mean he won't work with anybody. Replication by some crank in his garage is not as worthwhile to him as replication by respected research laboratories.

BlackLight Power is also in the middle of getting its patents granted. They are therefore somewhat cautious about putting their intellectual property into the public domain. Some critics have suggested that this is a red herring--many inventors have been able to sue large corporations that have stolen their ideas and win in court by establishing priority. However, BlackLight Power is a corporation, not an individual. Its business model is based around licensing, not litigation. In order to license its technology effectively, it needs to have a patent portfolio. If they were to release all of their techniques into the public domain, they would not have any technology to license.


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17. Why haven't BLP's results been independently replicated?

1. They have been replicated by laboratories commissioned by BLP; these are listed on the BLP web site. Several skeptical investigators have confirmed that at least some of these laboratories indeed performed the experiments and got interesting results. Unfortunately, BLP has not made the full detailed reports available publicly. Much of the data is presented in Mills' book, but unfortunately for the most part it has been expurgated of the names of any independent researchers. None of the parties at the laboratories have endorsed CQM, but when you talk to them they do admit to being mystified by the results of the experiments that they ran. These include definitive measurements such as X-ray crystallography of hydrino compounds and measurements of net energy output using differential calorimetry.

Full disclosure of these reports and true independent replication of the results are currently on the top of everyone's collective wish list. It is not clear why this has not been more forthright. Hopefully we will see these independent labs reporting their results to the mainstream journals before long.


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17. Why isn't there a commercial product already?

1.

If you look at the ramp-up times between discovery and application in the history of major discoveries, you would not be so unforgiving. Engineering is always harder than you think.

How HSG Began [hydrino.org is the domain name for HSG]

My name is Luke Setzer, founder, moderator and webmaster for the Hydrino Study Group (HSG). I am a licensed mechanical engineer with a day job in the Space Station program.

The HSG began in March 2000 as the result of my frustration with finding no substantial amount of third-party information of value on the Internet regarding Dr. Randell Mills' theory of the hydrino, or "shrunken" hydrogen atom.

I became interested in Dr. Mills' theory back in 1998 as a result of reading a forum letter in the Mensa Bulletin. The letter described a new process of power production that involved extracting energy from the orbits of hydrogen electrons and their resulting drop to below "ground" state. I ordered Dr. Mills' book and found the concepts intriguing, but the mathematics baffling.

I showed the book to some degreed physicists at work. They rebuffed Mills' work for being "very different from the approach of the scientific community" and called his proposed energy release method "fictional" rather than "hypothetical". Annoyed, I pressed forward with my quest for some answers.

To my surprise, there were no established forums for the exclusive discussion of this contentious theory or its many supporting experiments. To fill this void, I formed the HSG in early March 2000 and forwarded invitations to join to various relevant newsgroups that discussed Mills' theory to some small degree.

The initial format was very loosely moderated for civility. But by early June 2000, the membership had mushroomed to over 100 members, and the mail volume became horrendous. To maintain group focus, I implemented new procedures to maximize productivity while minimizing volume.

That is where HSG stands as of this writing.

BTW, the information from this post is from the fourth link of a google search on the CEOs name.

 

[Sol]

It's pretty hard to take someone seriously when they make statements like;

Lighting
The power from the BlackLight Process forms a plasma (a hot, glowing, ionized gas) that represents a primary light source as well as a primary energy source in the form of heat. Systems have been developed that harness the power primarily as light. Prototype lighting devices comprising a cell similar to a conventional light bulb but containing a catalyst of the BlackLight Process as well as a source of atomic hydrogen have produced thousands of times more light for input power using 1% the voltage compared to standard light sources. Projected into a product, these results indicate the possibility of a light that could deliver the power of conventional fluorescent and incandescent lighting, but operate off of a flashlight battery for a year without an electrical connection.

So if an incandecant light bulb is roughly 5% efficient and this thing puts out 1000 times as much light with 1% of the energy useage that makes it about 500,000% efficient (Well and truely efficient enough to run off a solar cell you stick under it with power to spare in case anyone needed a perpetual motion reference)... Admitedly I assume that it also gets some energy from the hydrogen but a device the size of a lightbulb containing a years worth of hydrogen does not seem very likely... (Unless we have some cold fusion going on I guess)

It's not just that though (I really can't see a way that the above statement could be anything other than pure BS but just in case I'm missing something), it seems every part of this project is equaly (improbably.... Impossibly?) sucessful... You can take water and use it to produce vast ammounts of energy (Via hydrogen... But even so) the byproduct just happens to be great for making everything from rocket fuel to lasers and not only that but they'll be a thousand times better than the rocket fuel and lasers we have today!! (Which could make for some great dual fuel cars, just run a line from your alternator backinto the exhaust and the extra electrons should provide you with a ready source of super H2 for some extra kick at the lights).

And all this comes from just dropping the energy of a single electon in a hydrogen atom (Obviously using more than one atom...). As far as I know lowering the energy of an electron is a nice way to make a laser beam but the ammount of energy released is nothing like what these guys are talking about.

I'm no physicist, and hey there very well could be something in this blacklight thing, but from what's on the web page it sounds way, way too good to be particularly true...