I think you read that "dumping on" into my post, Mercutio. I have nothing against it in theory, just a complete and total lack of use for it. I have never personally worked on a system that hade a use for file system security. (At least not to remember.) Doubtless in the corporate world, it's an essential. For me and for my customers, it's just one more thing to go wrong. If you can access the physical building here, then I have far more important things to worry about than my files. (RAM, drives, CPUs, cash, banana stockpile, you name it.)