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Howell

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Here's a new version of the popular "Nolan Chart," also known as the "World's Smallest Political Quiz". David Boaz of the Cato Institute (who popularized this "who should decide" approach in his book, Libertarianism: A Primer) thinks it's more appropriate than the other ones, and helps people think better, with a wider perspective.

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Nowadays when that ancient "left-right" spectrum is used, most people try to put fascists on the "right" and socialists on the "left" (as if they trampled peoples' lives any differently), and then trap you into swallowing the bizarre and evil notion that freedom is in between them, as some kind of fuzzy "compromise" between two allegedly "opposite" totalitarian extremes! How ridiculous can you get?

http://www.freedomkeys.com/whoshould4.htm
 

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Almost slap bang in the middle--Good old fence sitting...
;) :mrgrn: :eekers:
 

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I take it that the Cato Institute is a right-wing think-tank.

The choice of questions for the second part of the quiz betrays an appalling (and probably willful) ignorance of economics.
 

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Tannin said:
The choice of questions for the second part of the quiz betrays an appalling (and probably willful) ignorance of economics.
Agreed. What kind of idiot would be willing to give the government 100% of their wage? Even 50% is revolting, although here, I don't have the choice but to pay close to that (39.3% so far this year) and I'm revolted about it.

80/40, p/e I would be 100/100, but I wouldn't trust others to have the same freedom as I know I could have. People are way too moronic to be left free like that. See what happens to U.S. (especially Texas) with the freedom to own a gun. Every jackass with an inferiority complex can roam free with a lethal device under his arm. Freaking insane.
 

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CougTek said:
People are way too moronic to be left free like that. See what happens to U.S. (especially Texas) with the freedom to own a gun. Every jackass with an inferiority complex can roam free with a lethal device under his arm. Freaking insane.

That would be any person not convicted of a felony, or mental problems.

Most States now have concealed carry. Care to tell me the last time one of these jackasses misused their guns?
 

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Pradeep said:
Most States now have concealed carry.
I'm still waiting in New York. I probably wouldn't carry a gun even if it was allowed unless the crime rate started back up, but it would be nice to be allowed to if I wanted.
 

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70/90, p/e

The only freedom greater than deciding how you spend your money is deciding how you spend your time.
 

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Pradeep said:
Most States now have concealed carry.
I'm still waiting in New York.

NYS already has it. However they are not valid in NYC. And with some of the city Assemblymen recently trying to ban any >.50 cal guns - which include smoothbores such as 12 gauge shotguns, I don't think that will change anytime soon.
 

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CougTek said:
See what happens to U.S. (especially Texas) with the freedom to own a gun. Every jackass with an inferiority complex can roam free with a lethal device under his arm. Freaking insane.

Ummmm... I think you have Texas mixed up with Florida.

Texas didn't have a concealed handgun law until about 1997. Before then it was strictly verboten to go around with gunz in public places. However, in Florida, maybe around 1990, a concealed handgun law was enacted that was rather controversial in comparison with the one Texas and practically every other state in the USA has (now). If you are licensed, you can legally go around in public places in Florida with a handgun pretty much like cowboys did back in the days of the Old West -- as in a loaded six-shooter in a holster hanging off your hip. Few people that are licensed to carry gunz in Florida go around in public carrying their gunz ala "cowboy style," but there are some that do for the show (read: nut-jobs).

As far as concealed weapons in Texas go, it's practically a joke because it seems that damn near every business, damn near every park, damn near every whatever has the "no guns allowed" symbol or a sign that explicitly reads in text "NO GUNZ ALLOWED" that if you are legally carrying a handgun -- and you want to stay legal -- you are pretty much confined to the public sidewalk, street, and your motor vehicle.

 

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Best place for gun lovers would have to be Vermont, no permit required, to carry either concealed or open. (Tho open can cause some consternation in public).
 

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Ah, but do Vermonters have the right to armed insurection, as the folks in New Hampshire do?
 

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You need permission to have an armed insurrection?

I thought that was the point--you didn't need permission.
 

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It's like the US Bill of Rights.

The "Bill of Rights" are not rights that are granted but rights that are acknowledge by the government as inherent and inalienable.
 

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LiamC said:
You need permission to have an armed insurrection?

I thought that was the point--you didn't need permission.

You don't need permission. You can just march on Concord.
 
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