XP 2500+

LiamC

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Went to the markets (swap meet, fair) on the weekend. Picked up an XP 2500+ (I wanted the big cache) for AUS$160 (US$92).

Went home, ripped the 1900+ES out and bunged it into the 8RDA+

Installed Volcano 7+ on medium speed. Set multi to 12.5. Instant 2800+.

Ran all weekend with temps 8~9 deg. C lower than the TBred A 1900+

Hmm he says. Bump up bus speed to 172 from 166 on Monday morn after installing BIOS update and now running as 3000+

No voltage increase, just the Volcano 7+.

Sweet. My 8RDA+ doesn't like 200MHz operation (I'm using Corsair TwinX PC3200-LL), so it's mod time. Lap the NB heatsink, or maybe one of the Zalman - just have to find a place in Aus that has 'em) fan and then Vdd mod .

To be honest though, I can't "feel" much of a difference. Maybe when I load up Civ III in one of the big map games late in the game.

But so far, it has been too simple.
 
Unfortunately, I'm not convinced you need to worry about the northbridge cooler under 200MHz - I think there are other issues.

But if you need one, I'll send you one - I still have 3 left here ...
 
BTW I have been following the thread with you & e-dawg (I think), and I believe you are probably right.
 
The Volcano 7+ is a very effective cooler... I run mine on low and I still get decent cooling out of it. Beats the overhyped Zalman any day of the week.
 
For a company that has made so many lemons (the 'Orb' range), Thermaltake has come up with some real bargains:

Volcano 6 - even though the 6+ version used a stupid, loud fan that didn't appreciably help cooling.

Volcano 7 - once you threw away the noisy 'thermally controlled' fan and used something reasonable like a Panaflo.

Volcano 7+ - I always thought this was overpriced. Speed control is good, but I believe a quieter fan is even better. See Volcano 7.

Volcano 9 - even better cooling than the Falcon Rock II (albeit heavier). If I wasn't happy with the Spire, I'd be interested in trying different fans on a Volcano 9 - has anyone else tried, or just not bothered because of the speed controller?

Incidentally, I wish I could still get the Volcano 6. Where does AMD get off shipping straight aluminium coolers, when their own specs state that a copper insert is almost mandatory? The Volcano 6 would surely out-perform any of the current AMD boxed coolers.

I've even seen a sign at a wholesaler that states they won't accept faulty CPU claims, unless you can also provide the boxed cooler, with evidence of its original transfer pad on both the CPU and heatsink!

I don't believe official AMD policy is quite that draconian - I imagine it's just the stupidity of this particular supplier. :-?
 
time said:
For a company that has made so many lemons (the 'Orb' range), Thermaltake has come up with some real bargains:

Volcano 6 - even though the 6+ version used a stupid, loud fan that didn't appreciably help cooling.

Volcano 7 - once you threw away the noisy 'thermally controlled' fan and used something reasonable like a Panaflo.

Volcano 7+ - I always thought this was overpriced. Speed control is good, but I believe a quieter fan is even better. See Volcano 7.

Volcano 9 - even better cooling than the Falcon Rock II (albeit heavier). If I wasn't happy with the Spire, I'd be interested in trying different fans on a Volcano 9 - has anyone else tried, or just not bothered because of the speed controller?
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The Subzero4G - A $129.99 POS that doesn't even cool an Athlon XP as well as a Thermalright SLK800.
 
Not true. I pestered the guy I talked to about AMD's warranty during my single retail-chip RMA experience.

When you RMA a retail chip to AMD, you talk to a human being. The AMD employee asks some interesting, leading questions to find out what you know about computers and processors.and then basically makes a judgement over an RMA and its conditions. I told my guy, truthfully, that I was not using the stock cooler on my failed chip, that I was using a Spire BigRock with artic silver. He asked me about its application procedure, how I removed the thermal pad etc. I told him.
I only had to send back my chip. Not the fan.
 
Blimey! Compare that to Intel.

I phone them up with an SL code, and they send me an advance replacement CPU by courier the next day. You send them the CPU at their expense, job done. I have sent them CPUs with missing pins, chipped cores etc, and not a peep out of them; - but then again I suppose they can afford to be that nice with what they charge.....
 
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