Android phones: Tips, tricks?

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Most of the changes are pretty subtle, and if you're a Samsung user, Samsung likes to do as little as possible to expose users to Google stuff. There are some little things that you'll notice in Settings, like the battery use indicator is different. Samsung's philosophy is that users should be much more excited about changes to their launcher and UI bullshit.
 

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Hasn't Apple had that for years or is it different? I see all the older folks "drop shipping" files to others nearby, whether phone, tablet, or laptop. Maybe I'm mistaken.
I would never send anything to the Google unless it were business related.
 

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I would never send anything to the Google unless it were business related.

As the superuser for a whole bunch of Google Workspaces, that may or may not be the appropriate answer.

But Nearby Share can be a fantastic for copying over a 300MB PDF or to to share a bunch of photos without needing to know someone's contact details. I've discovered that many, many, MANY people don't know how to interact with pictures on a phone except to share them to an SMS (risking the photo quality if there's an Android-iOS transfer involved) or Email (young people have a more favorable opinion of HPV that they do email).
 

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It'll be nice to have for a nearby share option but it's rarely ever been a feature I've needed over the years. I usually just share from within Google photos to preserve quality when it comes to media type sharing.
 

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I'm sure the Google doesn't do anything without a reason and to be profitable.
I just naturally distrust the smartphones. I have to assume that the Google is spying on me, like Amazon and everyone that has a connected device. My personal compters have no A/V for that reason.
 

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Google is 100% for-profit so that's a safe assumption. They aim to monetize all things. They also occasional try new projects even if the direct result isn't specifically for profit but if it helps enable other areas they will also support working on it.
 

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How do you know they are not selling info to the people trying to get at you?
 

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Can you give me a specific example, I don't know what you mean by the people trying to get at me.
 

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I need to get into that kind of hobby.

It is definitely the pastime of the bachelor. Also, step one is almost certainly "Make friends and keep up with people who were and still are working at a strip club over a thirty year period and somehow don't do anything creepy to anyone in all that time."
 

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Pushing around my silly battery powered mower is the extent of it all which is probably your point. :)
 

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Quick Share from Google has had a Windows client for quite some time, but now Microsoft is in the process of adding Nearby Share access to Phone Link.

I don't need Quick Share very often but I do appreciate having it.
Phone Link works best with Samsung phones, to the point that I'm a little concerned that if I talk about features with others, I'm never sure what fully works and what doesn't.

Phone Link also has Windows Explorer integration in Windows 11 preview builds as of recently.

Also, I have become aware that not many people know about Intel Unison, which allows full sync to iOS. You have to have a PC with an Intel CPU and an Intel 802.11 NIC though. Works great with Thinkpads and Latitudes though, for values of great that involve voluntarily using iOS for some reason.
 

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I'm sure the Google doesn't do anything without a reason and to be profitable.
I just naturally distrust the smartphones. I have to assume that the Google is spying on me, like Amazon and everyone that has a connected device. My personal compters have no A/V for that reason.

On this unit at this work station I have been doing some hardcore studying of what is stored by browsers; 'entries' / 'places' / 'favicons' / and so many others. And yes, that favicons file has information about where a person has been with their browser.

I have not had the time to study what might be available to an outsider about what I do with the Android device my family got me when I went into the hospital for 6 months for a relapse, but from what little reading I've had time to do, I assume the Android device is another gold mine of info for some corporate section that is tasked to track my activities.

Frankly, the first time I seriously dug into what the browser files had stored about my online activity I was surprised. Even more surprised when I found out that using the easy to see tool for "cleaning" browser data was really not cleaning out enough. Not even close to cleaning out enough.

I used to be a Google fan, and even did volunteer work for them and also helped with some research for them back when GMail was first launched. Yes, I was one who was given an 'invite' and that was because I was an employee admin on a rather large site back then. But I have gotten very worried about many things related to what Google has become. I guess my first concerns started right on one of Google's sites some years ago and the management folks started letting me have some freedom to post those concerns to Google faithfuls, but they wiped that slate clean about 5 or 6 years ago. I am not remembering the exact time as I type this, but the Google upper-management really shut us down back a bit. I still have quite an archive of those days when we had more freedom to post our thoughts about their operations, but as of late my only contact is with a special group of mostly former Google helpers. Well, some family in the U.S. still has contacts with upper-management/executives because of past stock ownership.

Elected representatives in many nations have not been paying close enough attention to such like Google. And it's getting harder and harder for elected officials to deal with the situation.

But enough of these thoughts for now. My fifth post on this site and I am not yet so sure many folks in this Community are any longer really engaged in these thought processes. I'll wait and see if participation in this Community starts to improve because I post something one of you really hates. Or really loves. The "really hates" makes for a better exchange of views, though.
 

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At issue in this matter is the question of what alternatives we have in the arena of mobile device software: We have Google, which offers both Android with the Play Services Framework and ChromeOS; the Android Open Source Project, which exists and is almost never used for anything commercial; Amazon, with FireOS (also AOSP-based but not Play Services-based) LG, which technically owns WebOS, which technically could be a mobile OS but isn't currently; straight up Linux, which ALSO isn't used for anything commercially successful on mobile; and Apple, which makes a variety of bullshit all built on derivatives of BSD Unix that can mostly all be described as iOS.

AOSP is fine and basically viable. Better than most people would guess. But Google keeps moving functionality that used to be core OS components into Play Services in order to facilitate some combination of security updates and high demand functionality. There's a struggle to replace the parts Google has yanked out, but lacking the easy update mechanisms of Android also means that it's not ideal for non-technical users.

FireOS is in many ways on par with Android, except that Amazon's app store ecosystem isn't nearly as robust. There's a lot of "brand name" software that isn't accessible by default via Amazon's app store. Amazon's devices are reasonably capable for their target price and mainly exist to sell products and consume media via Amazon Kindle, Audible, Music and Prime Video. All of that is fine, but it falls down when for example common games with actual marketing budgets aren't available on Amazon. It's just a second-rate option, and most people who are happy with FireOS probably never leave Amazon's walled garden to begin with.

Anything that lives on or is derived from Android is subsidized by advertising revenue, though. Google is the largest ad company on the planet. It has ways to monetize clicks and taps that can make their platform palatable to developers for that reason alone. A side effect of this is that there are a lot of free-with-ads products where the Apple version costs money. Users can accept the reality that developers are collecting more information about their behavior if they like, or they can install additional software to prevent that data collection.

Almost anything about Android can be changed. I appreciate this when, for example, I don't like Samsung's version of an on-screen keyboard or Motorola's contacts app. I have a tool on my phone that lets me choose which audio devices particular types of sounds play through. This is the kind of flexibility I expect from a computer I keep in my pocket.

iOS, on the other hand, often only has one way to do anything. A substantial amount of software on iOS is simply mandatory, with no cure or ability to redress. You MUST use the web rendering components of Safari, for example, even if you choose to use a Firefox skin over it. iOS is so inflexible as to be brittle, and if Apple and its cult wants to pretend it's a good guy by not sharing all the data it is collecting, or that refusing to implement useful hardware features is What's Best for Everyone, I say that it is completely unacceptable. It is at best one size fits some. Apple treats its users as children. I truly do not believe iOS should be tolerated. It is the wrong direction for software. I do not want a $1000 device that will not let me use it the way I want. The cost for that is some degree of privacy, but in truth, anyone with a debit or credit card or an insurance card or driver's license in the USA has probably already lost a massive amount of privacy in the first place, whether they voluntarily shared their personal information with Meta through their phone or not. Chances are that if they didn't, a friend or relative probably did it for them. We in the USA do not own data collected about ourselves, so any idea of privacy we had is illusory at best. This is almost certain to change for the worse in the next few years for reasons that have nothing to do with mobile ecosystems.
 

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It's good to see some effort placed into a post in a Community such as this. Thank you.

I actually got into the little handheld device with what we called a keitai here in Japan and that was introduced to me by my wife, but I used it only for communications with family and then it became a kind of notebook for stuff I needed to log for myself. Point is I have never been keen on accessing Net products using that device, and then the new device, the Android device. I've never come close to hitting some sort of limit for the contract my wife made and I am able to use up such-and-such GB of this-or-that. I just don't use the device so much.

When the relapse hit back a couple years and we finally got the approval for the start of my in-patient care, I actually hauled about a half a work station of equipment with me and gave the 7th floor ward folks about as close to a human caused heart attack as one can get. But they also knew they couldn't get permission to stop me and so I was set up for about six months with a couple of computers and I think I only used the Android device twice for a special communications in a special room and that was to government folks; not civilians. That was because of the nature of the matter and also that Android device could record the 'meetings'. What I'm getting at is I don't really know a whole bunch about those little machines and have not done the necessary studying to know the amount of information you seem to have gathered, Mercutio. Well, your post seems to indicate you sure know a heck of a lot more than I do about these little Star Trek machines.

BUT, I sense in that post that you've found some significant difference in the commercial approach Apple operates in when compared to Google. That's interesting, because that is something I remember having to focus on a fair number of years ago and whatever it was that caused me to have reservations about Apple methods of operation has continued into even these days. It may seem odd to write "whatever it was" but I have forgotten many details of my early work on the Internet. And I really mean "work" as in being paid and it was due to a weird series of circumstances and I got tossed into an amazing Net arena and had to study really hard to keep up. And it didn't help that I was near the top of the management ladder and had folks working under me that knew 500% more about servers and operating systems and all that stuff. I was in HH mode for a fair number of months and all the time running the Community. In other words, I had to hide how stupid I was. But lucky for me my main job was people, as in managing the people that were managing other people. But it was about that time that choices starting popping up about Microsoft or Apple and we went to Microsoft. That later became more of a shift to Google. Oh yes, Microsoft way back was mighty expensive when it came to forum platforms and servers and all that stuff.

This post is getting too long, isn't it? I want to study your post a bit later, Mercutio, so I can get my questions lined up properly. But one point at my end about this privacy thing is that it started, for me, back at some point in the early 70s when I was on active duty and the Supreme Court kicked out a ruling that urine testing by the armed forces was illegal, or some such style of language. That was a big deal for the armed forces way back and I still remember that it got me to thinking about "privacy" and what else may fall into a category of being a privacy issue. You see, there were already some regulations built into the different regulations about privacy of certain matters but until that urine thing came about I hadn't really bothered to think so much about privacy issues. That was before that credit card thing got all fancy and stuff and ordinary non-rich folks could actually be allowed a credit card. Step-by-step, as each supposed freedom was handed out by commercial entities or governments a bit of privacy seemed to be the cost. Besides your money, I mean. And that has simply not stopped. But I think that these days there has been some sort of line crossed and it has gone too far. But defining that line is the problem.

Oh yeah, one further point; that draft system we used to have was one monster of a privacy violation. Making folks go kill other folks ain't so cool.

By the way, "HH" means hardcore homework.
 
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