New home! Advice welcome

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After much trial and tribulation, my wife and I have a purchase agreement without any active contingencies. We close and move on May 25th. This has been partially documented here , and there's more info and pictures of the house on our blog

I post here partially to ask for advice from some of the older folks. This is my first home, and clearly running a house has not been my focus in life. I'm blessed with a great father and father-in-law, but they can only do so much or go so far, again, because they've had other focuses in life.

Roof
The home was inspected, and my wife and I will be doing a walk through with the inspector in the next month or so. The house was built in 1984. One potential problem that came up during the inspection is that half the roof was replaced 1.5 years ago after a hail storm (we've seen numerous homes with new roofs from 1.5 years ago), but the other half is original. The inspector marked the older roofing to be in the "marginal" category - not good, but not the worste. Our realtor thought maybe it will need replacing within 3-5 years. But there's zero water damage in the house, and all the attic insulation is nice and fluffy. So hopefully we'll get some years out of the roof then replace it before it becomes a problem.

Moisture
One problem the inspector noted was that some of the windows have dry rot. Two are being replaced, partially because of this, and the others are being re-sealed. The lower level bathroom is also improperly vented - it shares the vent with something else (a dryer, perhaps?). They'll fix the vent. Twice when we visited we noticed condensation inside the windows. I figure maybe they had just taken long shower before leaving. They also have a central humidifier, which was turned on both times we were there. I want to try to prevent this problem from coming up again. So I'll turn the central humidifier down as low as we reasonably can (like, off in the summer). I'm also thinking about installing timer switches to the bathroom fans so they'll run for about an hour after we shower. Hopefully that will take care of the problem. Anybody deal with this before? Luckily the home is on a small hill, has a good grade around it, the basement in the back is a walk-out, and they don't have a sump pump (good, one less thing to fail, right?). So hopefully flooding won't be an issue.

Internet
I went through DSL reports, plugged in my new address and the current phone number there (found via a reverse number lookup, and I recognized the name from the purchase agreement). DSL reports warned that I'm rather far from a DSL station thingy - I emailed those who offer DSL but I'm not hopeful. It looks like the only cable company serving the area is Charter. They said they charge $57.95/$62.95/$82.95 per month (regular rates, not a discount) for 3/5/10 Mbps down and 256k/512k/1M up, and there's an installation fee of $49.95 which is required since there has never been cable out there before. There's also a $10/month discount if you get cable TV as well, which the wife might want. And they offer phone as well, but I'm thinking my wife and I might just go with all cell phones. Unfortunately Rochester is in a different area code so we'd likely want to drop our old phone numbers.

Right now we're not exactly sure where the computers will go, but we're likely to have mine upstairs and the wife's downstairs, so we'll likely be running ethernet cable. I think it would be nifty to actually set up the cables with real "outlets" in the rooms that look like phone jacks rather than just a cable. Any tips on this, or web resources explaining how?

Lawn care
We unfortunately have a largish yard, which if my math is correct is around 0.17 of an acre (lot size minus foundation size), but I guess I'd have to subtract for the large driveway, sidewalk, maybe garage, deck, and landscaping. I'm unfortunately allergic to many things outside, including grass. Between that and my schedule, there's a change my wife will be doing some of the mowing. Any tips on lawn mowers? Weed wackers? Other stuff I really should have? This summer my wife may have a small garden, but she'll likely go much bigger next summer as she likes to garden. Oh, I'd also need a good shovel and if I'm feeling lazy, a snow blower as well (never had one in the past).

Deck
We have a large deck. The current owners have two large grills on it. I think I'll need to get a grill. Around where I'm at now I occasionally use a small grill with briquettes. Growing up I used a basic propane gas grill. Any thoughts on grills?

The deck is unpainted wood. Anybody know what I need to do to keep it up? Weatherproofing?

Under the deck is a hot tub. Anybody know how to run a hot tub, or things I should watch out for?
 

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I mentioned somewhere that I had just replaced my roof (in exchange for my PC). My house was built in 1983. I suppose yours is really due for a replacement sometime soon. My roof used ordinary Galvanized Corrugated Steel Sheets probably gauge 22.

ah! but we don't have hailstorms.
 

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No, but with mudslides, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis and typhoons and radical islamic separatists, your roof probably needs to be replaced every few decades too, paugie.
 

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Mine is an asphalt roof on a medium grade. We also have gutters. And around here from what I can tell 20-30 years tops is about it for roof life.
 

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Anybody know anything about reel mowers - you know, the old non-motorized kind with the spinning blades? I actually used an ancient one many years ago, and found it to be decent. I'm also not a big fan of the noise and exhaust of power mowers. I just fear not being able to mow for a few days too long and then having grass that is painfully long to cut with it.
 

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I believe there was a discussion on reel mowers a few years back, when Tony got his Honda walk-behind mower.

IIRC the reel mowers do cut a very nice lawn, however as you say, don't let the grass get too long or it will be a bitch.

Grills: Can't beat natural gas/propane for the convenience, higher capital cost but lower running costs. Charcoal grills are cheaper to buy, takes more work tho. One of each would be best, sounds like you have the room :)
 

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I would replace the roof now. You can't expect much more life out of it and if it does develop a problem, it could be very costly to fix the damage to your home after all is said and done. Also, when you plan to sell (about 7 years IIRC) it will have a newer roof on it which will be a great selling point. Might as put the roof on now so you can get some use out of it and have the peace of mind associated with it. Otherwise, you'll probably just end up putting a roof on for the next owner to enjoy.

Use the best clear sealer on your deck you can find. Do not get a colored deck treatment as it will wear off and look like crap. I have lived this and wish the decks on the houses I have had were just natural looking like my Dad's. Stick with clear sealer, even if it doesn't last as long and needs to be re-applied every year. It will always look nice in the long run and you won't ever have a problem matching colors. I want to tear my deck out and get an all synthetic material one some day.

If you are both working and planning on having kids, I would just hire a lawn service for $20 a week or whatever they charge by you. I bought a lawn mower a couple years ago and wish I had not. Between work and trying to make family time (valuable in the summer) buying a mower was a bad idea. With baby on the way (hopefully making it all the way, this time) I will probably put mine up on Craig's list after this summer and hire out the service next year. I might just do it this year depending on how work is. I think I'll be overwhelmed with my new project (I have to engineer a whole bodyside) so I'll probably get a lawn service sooner rather than later. Of course, you may enjoy watching your wife working the push-mower in a bikini or something. That's a tough call. :)

I just bought this grill. I really like it and assembly was limited/easy. Highly recommend it for basic needs.

Really figure out what you have going on with that moisture issue. Looks like your house is all wood. If so, high moisture content is just a science experiment waiting to happen. Since you're on a hill, you basement should be fine but get a hygrometer and check out your humidity levels relative to the outside.
 

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One other thing about the roof... if you wait until you have a problem, you won't be in a good position to negotiate with your contractor on price & may not have time to shop around. So, definitely, be proactive rather than reactive.
 

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I love the lawn service idea except that mowing can be our built-in source of exercise. I figure a reel mower would make it the most pleasant. Of course, depending on how my grass allergy does any grass cutting could be just miserable. Its been 10 years since I've cut any grass.
 

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Safety
The hot tub is surrounded by a wooden/deck that doubles as a fence. There is a side door, and a double door going out from the "shed" area - I'll put some sort of small deadbolt/latch thingy on both doors. I'll change the locks. Since we're on a corner lot at the entrance to the development we have a fair amount of traffic, so I think that's a plus in terms of burglary prevention. There also aren't big bushes near the windows, which I like. But I'm still debating putting up motion-activated flood lights. Anybody have experience putting those up? Seems to be somewhat straight forward.
 

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But I'm still debating putting up motion-activated flood lights. Anybody have experience putting those up? Seems to be somewhat straight forward.

Great idea to install some of those lights. Nicer ones have the sensor separate from the light so that you can place it where you expect traffic. The ones attached to the light are so general, that bushes moving could turn the lights on and off all night.
 

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The good ones have adjustments for duration, distance, and sensitivity. I made sure to set mine just above cat in sensitivity, just before street in distance, and to turn off within about a minute.
 

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The good ones have adjustments for duration, distance, and sensitivity. I made sure to set mine just above cat in sensitivity, just before street in distance, and to turn off within about a minute.
Doesn't that leave you susceptible to cat burglars then?
 

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:p

some friends and I actually had some fun, sneaking around the house at night trying to find a way to approach without setting off one of the lights. We ended up having to use a technique like in the movie Sneakers, where you move very, very slowly. I figured that was good enough.
 

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The most expensive replacement items on the house will be the roof and HVAC. I would go ahead and replace the roof for all of the reasons previously meantioned.

The motion activated lights I installed were easy. All of the brains were at the receptacle so it was just a straight replacement.

I also recommend a lawn service. Just work it into your budget. It is much easier to buy a mower later when you know you have the time.

I'd also go for a cheap grill for the same reason. Low investment cost. Upgrade when the schedule and funds become more predictable.
 

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Later this month we'll be doing a walk through with the inspector, and will specifically ask about the roof. I initially thought it was worse than the report specified - it had 3 categories, and it was in the middle. I need to figure out specifically what that means.
 

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Motion lights are nice but...
I use a 6" wide X 3/4" thick piece of pressure treated lumber. Cut to length to fit in front of windows. Then I drive 50+ 3" nails all the way through the board, spaced about 1.5" apart. (use plain steel nails so they rust faster) Lay the board behind the shrubs in front of the window with the pointed part of the nail facing up. Catches the slim ball every time. If he manages to free himself, you can follow the blood stream to the hospital. ( I'm working on a way to attach a 50,000 volt electric fence device to the nails)
To protect the doors, use a Doberman Pincher and an electrified sceen door.

Bozo :joker:
 

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On the roof; hopefully you can partially work this into the purchase price? Going through this on my condo right now and they didn't budget for a roof replacement, major assessment fee coming up, stupid condo managers. Roofs last 20 years on average but if you don't have trees around or good climate it might last longer, don't know about 5 years longer though. Lean on that inspector and pump him for info!

Windows: you mentioned dry rot on a couple? Seriously think about vinyl triple or dual pane energy saving window replacements. Prepare for drastic differences in the heat / HVAC bill afterwards too.


Congratulations on getting a place to live and are no longer throwing money on rent. Man I spent more money than that on this condo I am in now, have to move to MN...
 

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Well, my relatively inexpensive home is in Rochester. I have a classmate who, from what I can tell, bought a similar house in Indianapolis for $30,000 less than I paid. A friend just bought a roughly similar house, maybe a bit less updated, in a suburb of Minneapolis for $75,000 more. Location location location!

I hope the newly fixed vent, turning down the central humidifier, and adding timers to the bathroom fans will fix the moisture problem.

We tried to get the roof fixed or get some money to fix the roof as part of the deal, but the sellers just would not go for it.
 
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