No Shingles 6GB Drive
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Buck
Storage? I am Storage!
I think you already have your answer, but none of the current WD drives are SMR. Most are 4K, except some datacenter drives at 4TB and under, such as the WD RE, which are 512n.
Yes, and I had forgotten about the thread started back in 2014.
The tortilla rate looks normal, so there are no shingles. Read speed STD graph is fine for the 5700 RPM as well.
Stereodude
Not really a
Tortillas with shingles... Sounds tasty!
mubs
Storage? I am Storage!
I saw this at B&H. Don't know if it has shingles or it's been vaccinated against the herpes virus.
Yes, I have that drive also. The NAS drive has no shingles and performs well, though it is a noisy.
I have no idea how the tortilla was involved. :dunno:
DrunkenBastard
Storage is cool
So I'm going to build a 4 drive RAID 5 array using 6TB drives, trying to decide between the HGST drive linked to by mubs and the WD Black. Any recommendations either way?
Stereodude
Not really a
Doesn't WD still intentionally prevent you from using their drives in RAID by messing with the firmware so they'll drop from arrays? In effect forcing you to buy their RAID Edition drives?
What controller are you going to use?
Edit: Newegg has these for $225.99 after promocode ESCKNKW28 when you buy 4 or more (limit 5). Promo code expires 12/20.
What controller are you going to use?
Edit: Newegg has these for $225.99 after promocode ESCKNKW28 when you buy 4 or more (limit 5). Promo code expires 12/20.
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I have a few of these HGST 6TB NAS drives and have been perfectly happy with them. Though I should note they're not used in a NAS but rather in my workstations. I've waited for them to go on sale much around the price you've listed rather than their full price of $269.
DrunkenBastard
Storage is cool
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Are you sure you want an 18TB RAID5 given the mathematical certainty of having a hard read error during an array rebuild of a data set that large?
I try not to make RAID5 arrays larger than 12TB.
SD, as far as I can tell, the "intentional messing with firmware" is limited to those Eco-type drives. Even the basically moronic SMR drives actually do behave themselves in arrays (other than being weird). I think NAS edition drives are ~6000rpm drives that behave in arrays while eco drives are ~6000rpm drives that don't.
I try not to make RAID5 arrays larger than 12TB.
SD, as far as I can tell, the "intentional messing with firmware" is limited to those Eco-type drives. Even the basically moronic SMR drives actually do behave themselves in arrays (other than being weird). I think NAS edition drives are ~6000rpm drives that behave in arrays while eco drives are ~6000rpm drives that don't.
CougTek
Hairy Aussie
I'm using the Deskstar NAS model you plan to buy in a low-performance fileserver. Bought the drives last year, in early December. None have failed so far and no one complains about their speed.
Regarding their use in a RAID 5 array, like Merc pointed out, I wouldn't use those in a large RAID 5. They are rated for one unrecoverable error per 100 Tb written (1 per 10^14), so one error per ~12.5TB. You plan for an 18TB RAID 5... so you'll get at least one error per rebuild. Garantied by the specifications of the drive.
For a RAID 5 that large, I would at least use drives rated for one unrecoverable error per 10^15, but all those are quite a bit more expensive. The cheaper one is the WD Red Pro. I've never used it. The Seagate ST6000VN0001 (Enterprise NAS 6TB) cost ~300U$, but isn't stock at New Egg at the moment.
Regarding their use in a RAID 5 array, like Merc pointed out, I wouldn't use those in a large RAID 5. They are rated for one unrecoverable error per 100 Tb written (1 per 10^14), so one error per ~12.5TB. You plan for an 18TB RAID 5... so you'll get at least one error per rebuild. Garantied by the specifications of the drive.
For a RAID 5 that large, I would at least use drives rated for one unrecoverable error per 10^15, but all those are quite a bit more expensive. The cheaper one is the WD Red Pro. I've never used it. The Seagate ST6000VN0001 (Enterprise NAS 6TB) cost ~300U$, but isn't stock at New Egg at the moment.
DrunkenBastard
Storage is cool
Thanks for the feedback guys.
My desktop machine has started BSODing about 5 mins after power on, tried swapping out the memory modules to no effect. So I've decided to upgrade the aging internals (moving from an E6600 and 2GB of DDR2) and hold off on buying the drives.
i7-5930
MSI X99A Gaming 7 mobo
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX cooling
My desktop machine has started BSODing about 5 mins after power on, tried swapping out the memory modules to no effect. So I've decided to upgrade the aging internals (moving from an E6600 and 2GB of DDR2) and hold off on buying the drives.
i7-5930
MSI X99A Gaming 7 mobo
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX cooling
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Well that'll be a slight improvement!
timwhit
Hairy Aussie
What OS are you running with 2GB of RAM?
DrunkenBastard
Storage is cool
Windows 7