West Coast getting blasted by huge storm fronts. 3 in a row, inside a week.

mubs

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Yes. Once aspect of GW often mentioned is reversal of climatic conditions - cold where it is warm, warm where it should be cold, rain where it should not, failed monsoons, etc. Some of these are happening with regularity - rain patterns, for instance.
 

Stereodude

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All right, SD, you know best.
Look, believe in AGW or don't. It doesn't matter to me, but the whole idea that the AGW pushers have established a non-falsifiable premise for AGW pushes them out of the realm of science and into something else. The scientific method relies on and is built around falsifiable theories. Someone establishes a theory (that can be proven false) and then often people try to prove it false (since some things you can't prove true). This is how science improves and refines it's understanding of topics.

In this case the AGW pushers are basically arguing that weather proves AGW. If they'll establish a falsifiable AGW theory then we can have a scientific discussion about the merits of AGW otherwise it's a complete waste.
 

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And considering that things are happening now (sea level rise, record droughts, record storms, record frequency of storms), focusing on them individually makes more sense anyway. We're past the theoretical "bad things might happen" and into the "how will this affect me" stage. That I believe that man-made changes to the composition of the atmosphere are causing changes to the earth (hardly a reach) matters far less to me than the fact that I chose to insulate my house as if it were in a much harsher climate (because it might be) and that my house is currently 28 feet above sea level (enough at current rate changes to outlast me).
 

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If we are still in the area when we build our next house, the location I've picked out is at 650', and still 12 miles from the ocean (decent view).
 

Santilli

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20's at night is getting normal. I'm wondering how that's going to effect the 20 billion dollar wine industry?
 

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Ended up a beautiful day (60s), but when I was loading my car for the ride and scraping ice off my windshield I felt very foolish.
 

Santilli

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LM:
Where exactly on that map are you?

It's 29 degrees here @ 1 AM. Ice on the cars. Yesterday driving at 9 AM hillsides are still frosted over. Unusual.

Surfing tomorrow, anyone?
 

Santilli

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26 @ 6:30 AM. Cold offshore wind.

Old Wind chill Index 11 degrees

New 16 degrees.

Pretty close to record lows.
 

Santilli

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Bloody Hell! It's 30 degrees at 9:53 PM!

Wind is from the NorthEast. It's already freezing, so it's going to go REALLY low tonight.
 

Santilli

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29 again at 8 am . How hum. It's getting common and loosing it's novelty.
 

Santilli

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27 this morning, again. It's getting old. 3-4 layers of clothes to do laundry????
 

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Wind chill will be about 10F in throbbing morning. I'm glad to be returning home tomorrow.
 
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