32"-37" LCD HDTV Choice

[ddrueding]

Borderline, but OK. Mainly, look at the size of the pixels, and figure out if you can see something that small from your average viewing distance.

 

[LunarMist]

The pixels would be easier to see if they were larger, i.e., on a lower resolution display of the given dimensions. Is that the goal with TV now or not?

 

[ddrueding]

My goal is to not be able to see the pixels. My 1024x768 projector throws a 70" image, and with my vision and our normal viewing distance, they are barely visible. Therefore having just a little more resolution, or a slightly smaller image would be ideal.

If the pixels on a 720P screen at your normal viewing distance are indistinguishable, a higher resolution set buys you nothing.

 

[P5-133XL]

I disagreee, a higher resolution on my TV gives a brighter picture, even though I can not distinguish individual pixels.

 

[LunarMist]

I don't undersatnd that at all. Brightness is measured over a larger area than individual pixels.

 

[P5-133XL]

Regardless understanding, I have observed it. I have compared 720p vs 1080p sets, the 1080p TV's will consistantly have brighter screens.

 

[LunarMist]

My goal is to not be able to see the pixels. My 1024x768 projector throws a 70" image, and with my vision and our normal viewing distance, they are barely visible. Therefore having just a little more resolution, or a slightly smaller image would be ideal.

If the pixels on a 720P screen at your normal viewing distance are indistinguishable, a higher resolution set buys you nothing.

So video is much the opposite of still photography, where you want to view each pickle. Interesting.

 

[ddrueding]

So video is much the opposite of still photography, where you want to view each pickle. Interesting.

I'm not sure about that. Of course, this is just my personal opinion, but for presentation purposes, I don't like the pixels visible on either. For editing, yes, but not for viewing.

 

[LunarMist]

I got a 32" Samsung. The image quality is OK, but the actual diagonal viewing area is only 26.5" from the cable TV. I can understand why the larger screens are popular and would get a 37" TV if it is ever necessary to buy a HD TV for myself. (I hope that won't be for 3-5 years.)

 

[ddrueding]

The hotel room we are staying in tonight has a 52" LG hanging of the wall with a multi-segment pivoting arm. It doesn't look safe. I'll be trying it out later.

 

[LunarMist]

I don't understand the logic. You will be doing something unsafe in the hotel room?

 

[ddrueding]

Many things But I'll be trying out the TV as well once I find some HD content to view.

 

[LunarMist]

I'm almost afraid to ask if they have the adult videos in HD.

 

[udaman]

Many things But I'll be trying out the TV as well once I find some HD content to view.

I'm almost afraid to ask if they have the adult videos in HD.

Hmmm, judging by the juxtaposition of LM's post, I'll assume the question is directed @dd specifically. IE, do they have HD adult content available in the hotel dd is @?

Rather than do they have HD adult material in general

http://www.avrevforum.com/april-showers/2027-movies-4k-digital-cinema-standards-2.html

What is seemingly the standard progression of format technologies, the adult film industry is looking to pave the way of the future. Digital Playground has announced that they will shoot their "films" using the Red One 4k camera. Here is there announcement and a little more history behind the RED digital cameras...

Digital Playground has started filming with RED digital cameras, a new camera more brilliant than 35 mm film, with 4 times the resolution of the best HD cameras, and the best cinematic look available. Digital Playground was recently in the news for its commitment to simultaneous release new movies on DVD and Blu-ray™ and to re-release its entire library on Blu-ray. Now Digital Playground is allowing a new color to make headlines--the color RED. In the past two months, Digital Playground has already used the RED One cameras to shoot 10 movies. The addition of RED digital cameras allows Digital Playground to match the quality productions of mainstream entertainment studios, while remaining the world-wide leader in adult entertainment.

Joone, the Founder of Digital Playground and the award-winning director of the "Virtual Sex™" series, the "Island Fever" series, "Pirates", and the upcoming "Pirates II: Stagnetti's Revenge", is devoted to incorporating the best technology available in his movies. He says, "As a filmmaker, I continually search out new ways to bring my visions to life and ensure their timelessness. Digital Playground is devoted to maintaining and updating our library to highest quality."

As a filmmaker, I continually search out new ways to bring my visions to life and ensure their timelessness. Digital Playground is devoted to maintaining and updating our library to highest quality. Joone continues, "RED cameras are the best available equipment on the market. The resulting images are like a grain-less 35 mm film or a 65 mm film. Fans will actually lose themselves in the clarity of our new movies. With endorsements by the American Society of Cinematographers and directors like Steven Soderbergh making the switch to RED, the RED One is making believers out of cinematic traditionalists and film loyalists."

The Founder of RED is Jim Jannard, the billionaire Founder of Oakley sunglasses and sports apparel. His development of the RED camera technology derived from a passion for creating the most advanced technology possible. Digital Playground was built on a similar passion and enthusiasm for technological innovation. Digital Playground began filming and distributing in the high definition format over four years ago. Pioneers in adult content, Digital Playground continues to pave the way, producing the best films possible, while utilizing the most advanced technologies available.

RED digital cameras pick up where HD cameras leave off and are completely compatible with modern viewing formats. The RED One camera uses a sensor measured at 4520 x 2540 pixels, which is more than 4 times the pixels of the very best HD cameras. The increase in pixels and dynamic range results in the clearest possible picture available.

Digital Playground's award winning director, Robby D. raves about the RED One camera. Robby exclaims, "On set, we love the camera so much that we named it Baby. The RED One holds up where other cameras can't. Porno on 35 mm with 4k resolution is an amazing thing!"

Being on the forefront of technology is nothing new for Digital Playground. The company was created around the concept of innovation. In 1995, Joone developed the cutting edge CD-ROM title "Virtual Sex Shoot", and the company was forever on the map. Then in 1997 Digital Playground launched the famous "Virtual Sex™" line of interactive DVDs. In 2004, the company released "Island Fever 3", the first adult title to be filmed, edited, and delivered in high definition format. In 2005, Digital Playground released the first adult iPod trailers, followed by the first adult movies for purchase on the iPhone in 2007. Most recently, Digital Playground committed itself to the simultaneous release of all new movies on DVD and Blu-ray. Digital Playground is not one step ahead, it's miles.

See Merc was wrong, there's plenty of content on BR now that he would like :crnval:

So they shoot on the Red One (can't wait for that Red Epic 645 format pr0n, should be able to make out the head lice *cough*), but there's not much in the way of distribution/inexpensive true 4k display options, yet.

 

[Handruin]

Hi resolution wrinkles and pimples with cover up that will be magnified and amazingly sharp...can't wait for it.

 

[ddrueding]

While there is certainly such a thing as too close, it would provide much better coverage of orgy scenes.

 

[Handruin]

They'd be too busy with things happening to notice the detail any way. Don't get me wrong, I think TV hi def could get even better than it is now, I just think it will start to show too much detail and that new issue will have to be dealt with some how. Be it actors (in all aspect, not just porn) with need to be even more perfect, or they will do the equivalent of photoshoping a scene more often than they might now.

 

[CougTek]

I'm almost afraid to ask if they have the adult videos in HD.

I'm sure they have a hole selection.

 

[udaman]

LG announces world's first 480Hz LCD TV display

Can't wait for the LM "where are the 1Ghz LCD TV's" thread .

Marketing hype...well at least the S. Koreans aren't getting PC with their continued use of cute young thangs to market these electronic toys to men/boyz.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/12/30/lg.intros.first.480hz.lcd/

I would prefer a LED backlit display, however.

I'll probably get a Viewsonic right after analog signals go dead. Nothing really good or inexpensive out there yet. 24in wide screen is plenty big for a desktop TV/monitor.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/12/15/viewsonic.vt2430.lcd/

LCD is conceived as a secondary HDTV that also doubles as a PC display and carries both an HDMI 1.3 connection as well as VGA; either can display at up to a native 1080p versus the 720p of most TVs at the same size. The screen also has a 10,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio uncharacteristic of most PC displays but is still said to have a fast 5ms pixel response time. More conventional TV input comes from component, RCA and S-video connections; sound is built-in and comes from a 10W chin-mounted stereo speaker setup. Exact availability isn't mentioned but should see the set priced closer to a conventional PC-only display at $399.

Why doesn't NEC make a combo TV/monitor Spectraview series...that would be cool (not to mention expensive )

 

[LunarMist]

I'm sure they have a hole selection.

I meant on the hotel LCD display. I am fairly sure that there are all sorts of indecent HD products available to the market as a whole.

 

[ddrueding]

I meant on the hotel LCD display. I am fairly sure that there are all sorts of indecent HD products available to the market as a whole.

The hotel had the full DirectTV package, so...yes. Though we didn't bother.

 

[LunarMist]

Cool - I guess. I don't get a chance to stay at the fancy hotels with giant TV sets. In most US cities I think we are normally allowed to spend $200 per day on lodging, excluding taxes. In some cities such as NYC, SF, etc. allowable limits are higher. An exception would be if the hotel is hosting an event, which does not ordinarily apply to me.

 

[ddrueding]

This was the Best Western in Lompoc, CA. I think the rate was $125/night. The lady at the desk upgraded us for free, I think we were the only guests in the hotel.

 

[LOST6200]

Lomposc? Diont that hvae big prison three?

 

[ddrueding]

There is a big prison, but the primary industry is flowers for seed. The fields are beautiful. You also get to see a rocket launch from Vandenberg AFB from time to time.

 

[udaman]

Congress delays shift to digital TV transmission, June 12, 2009

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/04/house-votes-postpone-transition-digital-tv/

Woot! In that amount of time, might have some of the newer large screen technology, trickle down to smaller size LCD TV's/Monitors. I get to wait so see if some of the better tech comes out in smaller models before I have to buy a digital TV

Viewsonic has a companion 22in model (not shipping just yet) to their 24in model, both with 1080p resolution native.

LG also has a new 23in LCD monitor announced @CES 1080p (but only digital TV).

 

[Handruin]

You know...you don't have to buy a new TV. They make tuners/converters for the digital signal.

 

[ddrueding]

Viewsonic has a companion 22in model (not shipping just yet) to their 24in model, both with 1080p resolution native.

I'm actually looking for smaller 1080p screens, so I can mirror my main display to other rooms in the house without scaling issues. 1080p projectors are still steep, though.

 

[ddrueding]

This one looks interesting. HDMI into the monitor and then SPDIF out to some decent speakers. What is the max length of HDMI, anyway?

 

[Handruin]

This might give some info on HDMI lengths.

 

[ddrueding]

Thanks Handy, should have looked there :study:

 

[Handruin]

Well, it didn't seem so cut and dry like the length should be 'x' number of feet, so I just pasted the link.

 

[ddrueding]

I'm thinking HDMI is good enough to use as a home video distribution system. The non-amplified cables are good to 50' and that will handle most of the runs. The repeaters and other wizardry will work for the outliers. Now all I need is a good HDMI splitter (1 input, 4-6 outputs).

 

[Stereodude]

I can't imagine why you would want to run HDMI to a monitor to get SPDIF out of it. You can't take advantage of any of the superior audio capability of HDMI that way. You might as well just take SPDIF from your source.

 

[ddrueding]

I can't imagine why you would want to run HDMI to a monitor to get SPDIF out of it. You can't take advantage of any of the superior audio capability of HDMI that way. You might as well just take SPDIF from your source.

I would be running HDMI for the video, but being able to pull the SPDIF out without needing a receiver saves space and money at the remote locations (kitchen, living room, etc). I didn't even know that HDMI audio was better than SPDIF, time to read up more.

 

[Stereodude]

I would be running HDMI for the video, but being able to pull the SPDIF out without needing a receiver saves space and money at the remote locations (kitchen, living room, etc).

Where are you going to send that SPDIF signal if you don't have a receiver? Most audio devices don't have SPDIF inputs.

 

[ddrueding]

Where are you going to send that SPDIF signal if you don't have a receiver? Most audio devices don't have SPDIF inputs.

Not sure yet. I've been looking online for ~$200 amplified 2.1 speakers that can take SPDIF as an input. Klipsch had a little box that went from SPDIF to 1/8" line out a couple years ago, but I can't find it now.

 

[Pradeep]

For something like that (2.1 over a $200 speaker system) optical should be fine. HDMI audio routing for whole house purposes is still on the bleeding edge.

However for your main home theatre system I would highly recommend HDMI, it allows you to have multichannel lossless high def audio, whereas optical/coax digital is bandwidth limited to only 2 channel lossless, multichannel has to be compressed and therefore 1.5Mbit/sec DTS is the best you can get out of that. Blu-ray with HDMI audio is really something else to experience.

 

[Fushigi]

Love the TV so far, but haven't watched enough for a full evaluation.

I took advantage of an offer from Dish Network & upgraded from SDTV w/DVR on our old set to HD DVR with connections to both the old SD & the new HD sets. The upgrade was free as long as I added HD programming to my package (about $10 a month).

- Now the HD set gets 1080i while the old set gets an SD signal.
- The new DVR does 55 hours of HD, 350 hours of SD, or anything in between; the old DVR did 100 hours of SD.
- The new DVR uses either phone or Ethernet for it's connection to the mother ship; the old used phone only.
- The remotes don't change with the exception of a new Format button which controls scaling/bars on the HD set. I've got it set for black bars on the sides of 4:3 content and 1080i/widescreen for HD content.
- The remotes are also smartly designed, with one being infrared to go in the room with the box while the second is RF as the second TV isn't in the same room. There's no need for an IR repeater or to run any wires.
- Things like channel listing preferences are tied to the TV (remote) so I've got two lists; one per set. The difference being the HD set gets the HD channels where available. For families, multiple 'favorites' listings are supported so each family member can have their own.
- The DVR will up/down-convert channels as needed. Recording something in HD but watching it on the SD set is no problem.

The only problem is that the DVR had to go where the HDTV was as the tech won't install HDMI with the TV & DVR in different rooms. So we've another box in the bedroom. At least it's pretty quiet.

Of course there's no phone or wired Ethernet in the bedroom. So I picked up one of these kits ($80 after rebate) + a cheap Gigabit switch ($20 after rebate). Now, not only can the DVR phone home but the BD player can use the Pandora & Netflix streaming features. I've been swearing more at than by Netgear lately but the kit had power passthrough which I hadn't really noticed on other units. And the price was decent. Insanely easy to set up & secure.

I've already set up Pandora with my wife's preferences. To eliminate the need for data entry on the BD player (user ID, password, etc.) you go into Pandora setup and it generates a 7 character alphanumeric code. Plug that code into Pandora's site from a PC and enter your user ID. It ties them together. That's all there is to it.

Also nice: Once the BD player had a connection it immediately popped up a message noting a firmware update was available.

I still want to add a small surround sound system but that will probably wait a while.

 

[Pradeep]

The 722? I think it allows an additional hard drive to be attached via e.sata.