timwhit
Hairy Aussie
One of my 2TB Samsung drives is failing. I got everything off of it, but I'd like to replace it with something larger. What 8TB drive is good right now?
To install in a computer and use as a data drive.Good for what? I have 17 of the WD helium 8TB NAS drives. They are only 5400RPM though.
Yes, I meant no shingles. Do you have a specific model in mind for HGST or Seagate? Link?Why not PMR? Do you mean no SMR?
I'd get a 7200 rpm NAS drive, HGST or Seagate.
And I thought that everybody had finally moved to network storage. 8)To install in a computer and use as a data drive.
Do you have a link?I use the 10TB helium Seagate Enterprise Capacity drives. The 8TB did not have helium gas at the time. Now they even have a 12TB, but it has more platters and requires somewhat more power than the usual helium drives.
I have bunch of these. I think they were nearly $600 16 months ago. The prices are much lower now.Do you have a link?
One of the Amazon reviewers from that link makes an interesting point:I have bunch of these. I think they were nearly $600 16 months ago. The prices are much lower now.
I probably would not buy drives from the Amazon, but that is another issue.
P. Luo said:This ST10000NM0016 is of the legacy 512e layout, i.e., 512 bytes per sector, as most consumer grade drives. Pick ST10000NM0146 (or ST10000NM0156, ST10000NM0176 if you want native encryption) instead if you want the native 4KiB (4096 bytes) layout. 4K native is more reliable and performant, as it has more ECC bytes in each sector to perform advanced error correction, and gets rid of the inefficient 512/4K emulation by directly exposing 4KiB physical sectors to the operating systems.
I'm not sure about that ECC part being different for the 512e. I thought it was before the emulation since the drives all have the same capacity. They all have the same 10^15 UER and 2.5M hours MTBF.One of the Amazon reviewers from that link makes an interesting point:
Why not?Anyway I know that the types cannot be mixed in my NAS array
I think he means mixing 512n, 512e and 4Kn drives in the same array... If it's software based RAID or something like ZFS/BTRFS, then it shouldn't matter... If it's hardware RAID, well that'll be up to the firmware of the controller to decide.Why not?
I read something on the Synology or QNAP sites. Perhaps it changed recently and is no longer an issue.I think he means mixing 512n, 512e and 4Kn drives in the same array... If it's software based RAID or something like ZFS/BTRFS, then it shouldn't matter... If it's hardware RAID, well that'll be up to the firmware of the controller to decide.
$180 at BestBuy for a 8TB external drive. But it is a different drive. WD red I believe.Depending on what you want to do, it might be worth googling about how people are buying the 8TB external drives and shucking the drive out of them. They are typically less expensive but I'd guess this voids the warranty.
That is where a few of my REDs were obtained.$180 at BestBuy for a 8TB external drive. But it is a different drive. WD red I believe.
Sounds like a great reason to avoid hardware RAID in anything but big-iron enterprise settings.I think he means mixing 512n, 512e and 4Kn drives in the same array... If it's software based RAID or something like ZFS/BTRFS, then it shouldn't matter... If it's hardware RAID, well that'll be up to the firmware of the controller to decide.
Link?Note that there is now a new model of the 8TB Easystore, which I suspect is using a non-helium 8TB drive.
There are two similar products. http://tinyurl.com/yd246b74Link?
Is the newer version worth the $120 premium?There are two similar products. http://tinyurl.com/yd246b74
My guess is that the new one is worse in that it uses a cheaper drive than a WD RED, but there may be other reasons for a different SKU.Is the newer version worth the $120 premium?
Thanks, I ordered one.Newegg has the HGST 8TB NAS for $210 with free shipping until the end of the day today. This is cheaper than the B&H deal a few weeks ago.
https://slickdeals.net/f/10832915-hgst-deskstar-nas-3-5-8tb-hard-drive-210-5-max-for-deal-ends-11-19
Just to clarify, the $200 drive has the better HDD than the $300 one?There are two similar products. http://tinyurl.com/yd246b74
Probably, but I was referring to the HGST 8TB 7200 RPM NAS drive, which should be a good one. I have no need now, but would certainly buy a half dozen.Just to clarify, the $200 drive has the better HDD than the $300 one?
Wants vs Needs Lunar. I want it, but don't really need it. Plus my car needs to be replaced soon.
Price dropped down to $140. I ordered with same/day in-store pickup. $151.89 out-the-door w/tax.
Back up to $200. Flurry of activity on the Hardocp forums with people grabbing them at the $140 price. Seems people are still getting the 256MB cache 'RED' drives in these units.Price dropped down to $140. I ordered with same/day in-store pickup. $151.89 out-the-door w/tax.
So I opened one of the enclosures from last year and it contains the WD80EMAZ (white label) drive rather than the REDs previously used.Back up to $200. Flurry of activity on the Hardocp forums with people grabbing them at the $140 price. Seems people are still getting the 256MB cache 'RED' drives in these units.
They are $300 now. Glad I grabbed mine for $140+tax.