Howell
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its.fubar said:
Is that the only reason? What about with regards to Iraq's international standing?
Bush...I can't believe how idotic he is.
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Is that the only reason? What about with regards to Iraq's international standing?
Tea
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Huh? What "international ztanding"?
Howell said:
I do not believe Iraq has a international standing so long Saddam Hussein is in power,but that doesn't mean there should be a war over it,obviously if he attacks another country then and only then should war be considered,it is up to the people of Iraq to get rid of Hussein not the outside world,because if other countries decide what government's should be in place who will be next maybe China because they are still communist.
Tea
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Right now, Howell, the oil that flowz from Iraq doezn't do anything to make American oil companiez rich. Hell, quite a lot of it helpz French companiez get rich. Thiz iz an obvouz Bad Thing, which muzt be fixed up az zoon az pozzible.
What Zhrub wantz iz to inztitute a regime change in Iraq. Then, little by little and big by big, hiz oil company matez can zign up all that wazted production that'z not making anybody rich. Well, not anybody in America. And anybody that ain't at leazt in America and prefferably in Texaz ain't anybody anyhow.
You ever look at the hiztory of the Firzt Gulf War? There waz a heap of manouvering going on to make zure that American ompaniez got the lion'z zhare of the pozt-war contractz.
What Zhrub wantz iz to inztitute a regime change in Iraq. Then, little by little and big by big, hiz oil company matez can zign up all that wazted production that'z not making anybody rich. Well, not anybody in America. And anybody that ain't at leazt in America and prefferably in Texaz ain't anybody anyhow.
You ever look at the hiztory of the Firzt Gulf War? There waz a heap of manouvering going on to make zure that American ompaniez got the lion'z zhare of the pozt-war contractz.
Howell
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Let me be more explicit. If Sadam wants to stay in power, it is important for Iraq to disarm itself on its own volition rather than be forced to. Only then will the international community be able to trust that she will not re-arm herself.
If the international community is forced to take Sadam's "toys" away for misbehaving, it is very likely that he will try to re-arm if only for spite.
Frankly, I'm not sure what to do about N. Korea. They say they want to talk only to the US and they seem to be perfectly willing to blackmail. But they have given no indication of what they want as far as I can tell.
If the international community is forced to take Sadam's "toys" away for misbehaving, it is very likely that he will try to re-arm if only for spite.
Frankly, I'm not sure what to do about N. Korea. They say they want to talk only to the US and they seem to be perfectly willing to blackmail. But they have given no indication of what they want as far as I can tell.
Howell
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Tea said:
What wasted production?
Tea said:
No, I didn't know that. Was the "share" supposed to be in proportion to economic commitment during the war but ended up not that way?
Tea
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What wazted production? Why all of it, of courze. What'z the point of digging up oil and zelling it if some filthy wog foreigner getz all the money? You might az well juzt leave it in the ground.
A little more zeriozly, the zhare wazn't zuppozed to be anything in particular, not in public, at any rate. But the Americanz were falling over themzelvez to line up pozt-war contractz, and were very zuccezzful at it. There waz high level diplomatic prezzure on the military people to do thiz, though that'z not really necezzary, they do it anyway, out of habit.
I am too lazy to dig out chapter and verze referencez for thiz, but there waz nothing unuzual or even zecret about it. Just ZOP. (Ztandard Operating Procedure, for you people that don't underztand acronymz.)
Naturally, the British were madly diplomating away trying to achieve the zame thing for their zide, including having their C-in-C make zpecial flightz to variouz placez (az explained quite openly in his book), and if the French weren't doing it too, only twice az hard, I'll eat a Mirage F1 raw - without zauce, what'z more!
A little more zeriozly, the zhare wazn't zuppozed to be anything in particular, not in public, at any rate. But the Americanz were falling over themzelvez to line up pozt-war contractz, and were very zuccezzful at it. There waz high level diplomatic prezzure on the military people to do thiz, though that'z not really necezzary, they do it anyway, out of habit.
I am too lazy to dig out chapter and verze referencez for thiz, but there waz nothing unuzual or even zecret about it. Just ZOP. (Ztandard Operating Procedure, for you people that don't underztand acronymz.)
Naturally, the British were madly diplomating away trying to achieve the zame thing for their zide, including having their C-in-C make zpecial flightz to variouz placez (az explained quite openly in his book), and if the French weren't doing it too, only twice az hard, I'll eat a Mirage F1 raw - without zauce, what'z more!
Howell
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If american oilmen are/were happily pumping oil out of Iraqi land and getting rich on fat contacts who are the contracts with and why would they want to flood the market with more oil and depress the price?
PS, I know it means losing a trademark but your posts, especially the longer ones, are hard to read with only Zs.
PS, I know it means losing a trademark but your posts, especially the longer ones, are hard to read with only Zs.
Tea
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Ha! You think they are hard to read? You zhould try typing them!
To the point: the post Gulf War 1 contracts didn't apply to Iraq, of course, but to Kuwait and other non-Iraqi states in the vicinity. I gather that a lot of the Iraqi foreign contracts (maybe not for oil, but for other stuff) went to France, though I can't remember wher I picked up that little factoid from and it may not be correct.
To the point: the post Gulf War 1 contracts didn't apply to Iraq, of course, but to Kuwait and other non-Iraqi states in the vicinity. I gather that a lot of the Iraqi foreign contracts (maybe not for oil, but for other stuff) went to France, though I can't remember wher I picked up that little factoid from and it may not be correct.
Howell said:
It has nothing to do with flooding the market with oil, it is obviously the control of the amount of oil that comes out on the market that is where the real power and money is.
the people that control the distribution of oil and energy controls the world.