Coronavirus
- Thread starter Stereodude
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NAB 2020 delayed. (National Association of Broadcasters)
From the linked page...
"Dear NAB Show community,
As you know, we have been carefully monitoring coronavirus developments both domestically and globally over the past few weeks.
In the interest of addressing the health and safety concerns of our stakeholders and in consultation with partners throughout the media and entertainment industry, we have decided not to move forward with NAB Show in April. We are currently considering a number of potential alternatives to create the best possible experience for our community."
From the linked page...
"Dear NAB Show community,
As you know, we have been carefully monitoring coronavirus developments both domestically and globally over the past few weeks.
In the interest of addressing the health and safety concerns of our stakeholders and in consultation with partners throughout the media and entertainment industry, we have decided not to move forward with NAB Show in April. We are currently considering a number of potential alternatives to create the best possible experience for our community."
Stereodude
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Limber up!
Stereodude
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and Cardio
Stereodude
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Dang it, now I want to watch Zombieland tonight. 
DrunkenBastard
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What concerned me was that the CDC apparently wanted to warn those over 60 and immunocompromised to avoid flying domestically, after lobbying by airlines, this was denied and CDC instead released the weakened notice that over 60 and high risk people should avoid being out and about.
DrunkenBastard
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From CNN:
"President Trump announced tonight that all travel from Europe to the United States will be suspended for the next 30 days, except for the UK.
Trump made the decision in order to "keep new cases from entering our shores." He said the new rule will go into effect beginning Friday at midnight."
"President Trump announced tonight that all travel from Europe to the United States will be suspended for the next 30 days, except for the UK.
Trump made the decision in order to "keep new cases from entering our shores." He said the new rule will go into effect beginning Friday at midnight."
Newtun
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March madness indeed: 2020 NCAA Tournament (basketball) games to be played without fans in attendance
NBA to suspend season following Wednesday's games.
From ESPN.COM, "NBA suspends season until further notice after player tests positive for the coronavirus."
Things are getting serious now.
From ETonline.com, "Tom Hanks Reveals He and Rita Wilson Tested Positive for Coronavirus."
Stereodude
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Tom Hanks has it.
deadline.com
Tom Hanks & Rita Wilson Test Positive For Coronavirus As Outbreak Hits ‘Elvis Presley’ Film
EXCLUSIVE: We have just received word that Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson have tested positive for the coronavirus. Both have been down in Australia for the pre-production of Baz Luhrmann’s untitl…
deadline.com
Stereodude
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Trump bans all air travel from Europe including cargo for 30 days (excluding the UK).
www.yahoo.com
Trump suspends travel from Europe for 30 days as coronavirus cases continue to grow
President Trump announced Wednesday that he was set to suspend travel to the United States from Europe for a period of 30 days in an effort to stem the spread of coronavirus.
Stereodude
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So much for that theory after testing positive...
Rudy Gobert questionable with 'illness' days after touching mics to make a point about coronavirus - Yahoo Sports
In trying to make one point, he proved the original one.
E3 2020 cancelled.
Everything is being cancelled. It's was scheduled three months from now (June 9-11) in L.A. Are all these conferences going to be un-cancelled if things calm down relatively soon?
Everything is being cancelled. It's was scheduled three months from now (June 9-11) in L.A. Are all these conferences going to be un-cancelled if things calm down relatively soon?
jtr1962
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The only way I see things calming down is if we get a vaccine for this in record time.
Stereodude
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They have a vaccine for it already, but I don't want to be the guinea pig for it. The reason why vaccines take a long time is because it takes a long time to make sure they're actually safe and work as expected.
Was there an announcement today about there being one or is it still hypothetical? Last I read and heard there is still no vaccine available and won't be for quite some time. That and for all the reasons you mentioned regarding trials/approvals, etc.
Edit: there are candidates in development...that doesn't mean to me we have a vaccine.
Edit: there are candidates in development...that doesn't mean to me we have a vaccine.
Stereodude
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Well, I didn't mean it was ready to be used on people. But technically several companies/organizations already have vaccines (candidate vaccines). Now they have to begin proving that they work as intended and are safe.
Researchers rush to test coronavirus vaccine in people without knowing how well it works in animals
Researchers aren’t waiting to see how well an experimental #Covid19 #coronavirus vaccine prevents infection in animals before trying it in people, breaking from the usual protocol.
www.statnews.com
As pressure for coronavirus vaccine mounts, scientists debate risks of accelerated testing
Drugmakers are working as quickly as possible to develop a vaccine to combat the rapidly spreading coronavirus that has infected more than 100,000 people worldwide.
www.reuters.com
I think we're basically agreeing. I wasn't considering it to be an actual vaccine until it's out and approved, meaning trails, etc have been passed, etc.
Some of those articles are concerning given their approaches. The second article suggests things are being rushed to get through trials. I would guess there is a huge chunk of cash involved to be the first to produce a vaccine and have it manufactured and distributed.
Makes me think of the movie I Am Legend...even though that vaccine was for cancer, not something like COVID.
Some of those articles are concerning given their approaches. The second article suggests things are being rushed to get through trials. I would guess there is a huge chunk of cash involved to be the first to produce a vaccine and have it manufactured and distributed.
Makes me think of the movie I Am Legend...even though that vaccine was for cancer, not something like COVID.
jtr1962
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So the vaccine will turn people into zombies instead of the disease? Interesting. Now I'll be lying awake at night worried my mother will come in and start eating me.
Has anyone seen/found a source of the global data for COVID-19 that includes ages of the people that are sick/dead/recovered?
I have found this repo from the JHU CSSE but it doesn't contain the age breakdown:
github.com
CNN has a bit that says 80 y/o is the average age of death from coronavirus.
I'm quoting the article and screen capture in case it gets edited or removed...
I have found this repo from the JHU CSSE but it doesn't contain the age breakdown:
GitHub - CSSEGISandData/COVID-19: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Cases, provided by JHU CSSE
Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Cases, provided by JHU CSSE - GitHub - CSSEGISandData/COVID-19: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Cases, provided by JHU CSSE
github.com
CNN has a bit that says 80 y/o is the average age of death from coronavirus.
I'm quoting the article and screen capture in case it gets edited or removed...
I don't really think this will happen; I meant it as a joke based on the rushed trials.So the vaccine will turn people into zombies instead of the disease? Interesting. Now I'll be lying awake at night worried my mother will come in and start eating me.
jtr1962
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I found this.
AGE | DEATH RATE confirmed cases | DEATH RATE all cases |
80+ years old | 21.9% | 14.8% |
70-79 years old | | 8.0% |
60-69 years old | | 3.6% |
50-59 years old | | 1.3% |
40-49 years old | | 0.4% |
30-39 years old | | 0.2% |
20-29 years old | | 0.2% |
10-19 years old | | 0.2% |
| 0-9 years old | | no fatalities |
Basically, it sounds like if you're under 50, this isn't all that bad. 50 to 59 has a somewhat higher risk, but that might be only for those who already have compromised health, which is more likely as you get older. 60+ is where things get really bad.
Not to sound insensitive, but if we can't control the spread of this it might buy Social Security a few more years as people who otherwise would have collected 5 or 10 more years get sick and die. Of course, that's a lousy way out of the problem, but every cloud has its silver lining.
The other silver lining from this is less problematic. The big story is telecommuting is way up, and once bosses find they don't need to watch over their employees, it might persist after this is over. That should mean less crowded rush hours and cleaner air. The other part is air travel, especially international air travel, has dropped radically. Again, when people, and especially businesses, realize they can function just fine without these trips we might see a permanent shift to teleconferencing and the like. Less pollution (both air and noise), and better overall for everyone.
jtr1962
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I know that but you have to diffuse things like this with a little humor. I'm pretty sure a disease which really turns people into zombies is medically impossible but such a thing can serve as an imaginary worst-case scenario.
Link of above snapshot.
Another link to above here.
This link updated as well: https://www.isitcanceledyet.com/
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Stereodude
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And, they're already walking back parts of it. Cargo is excluded from the ban. How hard is it to announce stuff correctly the first time?Trump bans all air travel from Europe including cargo for 30 days (excluding the UK).
Trump suspends travel from Europe for 30 days as coronavirus cases continue to grow
President Trump announced Wednesday that he was set to suspend travel to the United States from Europe for a period of 30 days in an effort to stem the spread of coronavirus.
Apparently real hard...
I was reading some threads of people getting screwed over on flights due to misinformation regarding the suspended travel announcement. Seems ill-prepared at best. Not saying the idea isn't good, just the organization and delivery.
jtr1962
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As it should be. This virus has a very low survival time outside of living things. With a few precautions, no reason worldwide cargo flights can't continue for the duration of this.Cargo is excluded from the ban. How hard is it to announce stuff correctly the first time?
Stereodude
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The flight ban on people I can understand being less clear. They announced it first then rolled out the details. Otherwise it'd leak ahead of the speech and there'd be a mess the other way. I don't think it's realistic to expect the president to get into the weeds explaining that US citizens and residents will be able to fly back to the US from Europe into one of only 14 airports where they will be checked (presumably tested for it) and then they have to self quarantine for 14 days etc. in the middle of a pretty short speech covering a lot of ground.
The mix-up on cargo is a stupid unforced error.
Stereodude
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Supposedly several days, perhaps up to a week based on some reports.
I ordered some blu-rays from Amazon UK and Zavvi earlier this week as well as some used blu-rays on eBay from domestic sellers. I'm thinking to let them sit for several days before opening them after they're delivered out of an abundance of caution.
jtr1962
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So that means stuff coming by ship from China is a locked shipping container should be OK. Most international air shipments take over a week overall, so we should be OK there as well, provided nobody opens the packages en route (and we disinfect the packages themselves).
jtr1962
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Spray the box with disinfectant before you even touch it, then let it sit, perhaps in your garage, for a while.
Stereodude
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It all depends how it's shipped. I've had air shipments arrive much faster than that. I ordered a Sony MP3 player late last fall from a seller in Hong Kong and I had it on my doorstep 2 days later (DHL). Granted the typical international shipping on low cost items is much slower, but FedEx / DHL stuff comes in only a few days. At work stuff from Europe routinely arrives in about 2 days via FedEx.