dSLR thread

[snowhiker]

There are plenty of 50mm options for Nikon.
Why would you use a fast prime like a 28/1.4 for landscapes? Is it really the best choice in that FL?

The Nikkor e-series lenses are sharper than the older g-series ones. I'd only want a 28mm because it would be "evenly spaced" between a 19-20mm lens and a 50mm lens.

It's stupid that people still want that archaic blurry/jerky 24FPS look from like 80-90 years ago.

If you shot 24p video 2 years ago and wanted to add/edit, more/different, video to that file and could not shoot at 24p that would be problematic.

 

[snowhiker]

Canon officially announces the EOS-1D X Mark III.

There are actual specs listed vs the "no-info" Nikon D6 announcement.

The fredmirandia forum thread that lists specs.

 

[LunarMist]

The sensor has no resolution. That does not bode well.

 

[snowhiker]

Nikon plans major announcements for the CES.

- D780 DSLR.
- Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 120-300mm f/2.8E FL ED SR VR.
- Z-mount 70-200mm f/2.8.
- Coolpix P950 "mega-zoom" camera.

My guesses are the mega/super zoom will retail around $7.5-9k and the Z-mount 70-200/2.8 will be $2800.

Some of the D780 listed specs:
- 24MP BSI Sensor.
- 4k30p & 2k120p video.
- Dual UHS-II SD card slots.
- 51-153 (105?) "regular" AF points. 273 AF points in LV.
- EN-EL15b battery.

(everything sounds really awesome up till this point...then...wait for it...)

- NO battery grip compatibility/pins. (aka D7500) <<<<----EPIC FUCKEN FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- $2000-2200.

Lets ignore all the bad press from media/youtubers who shit all over the Z 6 and Z 7 for this. I understand the "bean counter" arguments for removing this feature. But beside the upcoming D6, the D780 could very well be the last DSLR Nikon produces. Especially if they can get a competent mirrorless D850 produced by late 2020/early 2021. Why remove features from your "last" camera? WTF. Sorry this just pisses me off as I'm not serious enough and/or rich enough to ever jump all the way up to a D850 class of camera. I was considering the D780 but no grip=NEVER BUY. PERIOD.

/end rant.

 

[snowhiker]

Some early pics of the D780. $2k FX camera in 2020 without a vertical grip or joystick? Really? I have a feeling the D780 is going to be as big a failure as the D7500 was/is. Sad.

 

[Stereodude]

Canon looks to be having a hold my beer moment with the 1D X III. https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-iii-summary/

They can't leave Nikon to doing all the disappointing.

 

[snowhiker]

Yeah I saw that 1D X III article. Canon upgraded and downgraded their video just a bit. Is 5.4k RAW video so exciting that they'd compromise DPAF @ 4k for it? I'm sure the III will be an amazing camera but I was getting the feeling the Canonites were like, "is this it?" regarding their flagship camera. Like a 1D X 2.1 instead of III. I have a feeling the Nikon folks will get a D5.1 as well.

And I can understand their feelings and frustration like I have for the grip-less and joystick-less, $2k, D780.

Also interesting was no resolution bump on the 1D X III. Probably means the D6 will stay at 20 MP as well. Anecdotally there seems to be a need, desire and demand for a high MP camera with a high frame fate (14 fps) for the BIF and wildlife people. A truly "pro" D850 spec'd camera. Understandable the sports, action, PJ people want to stay at 20 MP since they only need 2-4MP for their published images anyways.

Since the D5 and 1D X II are such fine cameras if Canon/Nikon wasn't going to bump up the res any that maybe they should have put out a HIGH RES 45-60 MP D5x or 1D X II x camera.

 

[snowhiker]

My guesses are the mega/super zoom will retail around $7.5-9k and the Z-mount 70-200/2.8 will be $2800.

My guesses for the list price of new Nikon gear were fairly close.

Actual pre-order prices:
D780=$2300.
120-300mm=$9500.
70-200S=$2600.

The D780 and the mega/super zoom seem a bit high, but at least the mega/super zoom (if the MTFs are accurate) is stellar. The $2600 for the 70-200mm S lens is a bit surprising. Cheaper than I thought it would be. Especially if it ends up being better than the F-mount E version which is the best 70-200 on the market today.

 

[snowhiker]

The Nikon D6 has been officially announced.

Same resolution. No 4K60 video. No RAW video. No PDAF in LV. Electronic shutter fps only 10.5 fps Vs 20 fps for Sony and Canon. Same $6500 price tag. Bump from 12 to 14 fps mech shutter and a GPS module now included.

This is not the D6 I was hoping for. I'm calling this camera the Nikon D5.1. As there's not even enough new features to call it a D5s.

Total snoozefest and fail for Nikon.

 

[Chewy509]

Olympus exiting camera market:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53165293

 

[Chewy509]

Looks like Sony is exiting the DSLR market to focus on mirrorless:

Sony is no longer selling DSLRs | Engadget

After helping make mirrorless dominant in the interchangeable lens camera world, Sony has quietly stopped selling its A-mount DSLR cameras..

www.engadget.com

 

[Mercutio]

I believe Nikon has announced that they're ending sales of SLR cameras as well.
Canon has said 2021 will be the last year it offers new SLR cameras and it has also ended production of a number of EF lenses that have an RF equivalent.

But hey, there's always Pentax.

 

[LunarMist]

No, they are not ending sales. There will be no new cameras designed/introduced. Some cameras like the Nikon F6 were produced for more than a decade after digital cameras appeared. The big problem is the lack of new lens designs or inferior lens designs that don't replace the old ones. Some recently discontinued Canon EF or Nikkor lenses will be in high demand and quite valuable although not serviceable in a few years.

 

[Mercutio]

The market for $250,000 1200mm f5.6 lenses is just a bit self-selecting. Let the niche stuff go last.

But the writing is on the wall for camera bodies. There will still be DSLRs in the supply chain for years, obviously, but apparently some of the more common EF mount lenses have dropped off support lists, and that's potentially a bigger deal for someone who wants to stick with their old body.

A couple of my models just bought cameras of their own over the weekend. They asked me what to get. I suggested the Canon RP or a 90D. I do think the 90D is a better overall camera in a lot of important ways, but it's hard to argue with getting an RF mount, even if they both wound up buying a $100 EF to RF adapter first thing.