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Thanks, but the kid is less than a week old. I would be in serious trouble.
Where's your sense of adventure? :bstd:Thanks, but the kid is less than a week old. I would be in serious trouble.
Where's your sense of adventure? :bstd:
No, I'm on the fence. I don't need another pair of speakers, but I'm afraid that's not a very strong deterrent.Did you buy them?
No, I'm on the fence. I don't need another pair of speakers, but I'm afraid that's not a very strong deterrent.
Exactly where I left it.Where's your sense of adventure? :bstd:
;-)
In his mother's womb.Where's your sense of adventure? :bstd:
;-)
Oh look we have our own resident Jean K. Jean here.In his mother's womb.
Sorry, I had to say it. I'm so evil.
They appear to be on sale through the end of the month $669 each instead of $749.
Oh, I bought them before when they were $669, so I've already got a set.They're on sale for $639 in case it tempts you still. I can take your airmotiv 4s off your hands. They're also on sale for $299.
Oh, I bought them before when they were $669, so I've already got a set.
They're nice, but they have a faint hiss that I can hear from my seat when the house is very quiet. I'm not really listening to them nearfield.Nice. How are the Stealth 8s? Are you using them nearfield? If I could sell my CM9s, those Stealth 8s would pair well with my Marantz AV7005 for my home theater.
They're nice, but they have a faint hiss that I can hear from my seat when the house is very quiet. I'm not really listening to them nearfield.
The hiss is there with or without anything connected to the inputs. It's not based on input level. I turned down the gain on them as much as possible (which isn't a lot). This reduces it some. I am driving them from my fully balanced headphone amp / DAC. It's not noticeable when you're listening to music, so more of an annoyance.That's unfortunate to hear. Does the level of hiss change based on the input level or is it constant? My XPA-5 amplifier has a faint hiss when I put my ear near the tweeter but I don't recall being able to hear it from my listening position. It's a constant hiss even with the RCA connections removed from my pre/pro.
I knew they were going to be larger, but this caught me a bit by surprise. That is a 30" monitor.
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I knew they were going to be larger, but this caught me a bit by surprise. That is a 30" monitor.
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Sounds amazing so far, I'll know more after 5pm when I can open them up a bit. I am completely shocked at how clear they are at very, very low listening levels.
Highly doubt cancer... but don't be surprised if you get the occasional head-ache. (localised EM fields off the speakers can cause weird stuff to happen to the brain, either causing blood flow issues, or the occasional neuron misfire, especially if you jack up the volume and have several hundred watts hitting the magnets in the speakers).The guy with the office next to mine looked at them and said "man, you're gonna get cancer or something..."
Double post...The guy with the office next to mine looked at them and said "man, you're gonna get cancer or something..."
The motherboard does have optical out, so that isn't too big a deal. What is crazy is the pricing of things as we talk about this, not to mention the space it would take up. All I'm looking for is a couple DACs and a low (maybe high) pass filter, no? If I just got some splitters off my sound card and sent part to the speakers and part to the sub, would the sub have a low-pass built in?
Seems the cheapest Receiver with analog pre-amp outs for the front channels is the Onkyo TX-NR717. Nearly $700.
You can get something for a lot less than that. Amazon had the Onkyo 809 as low as $427 last week. The price has been slowly climbing since.
You could get a USB dac / pre-amp like the Audio-gd unit I bought and use a small DSP after that like the MiniDSP with the 2.1 plugin.
It's almost impossible to say without testing, it depends a lot on the room. Some speakers are designed to sound good in real rooms where it's pretty uncommon to have sound dampening on the walls, but they might have carpets, curtains, furniture and other things that affects the sound.Also, I was considering putting foam wall treatment on the wall behind the speakers. Would there be a benefit to something like this wall treatment?
The 717 should do what you're after. You'd be paying a lot to get XT32.I'm looking for a solution for a 2.1 setup now and it looks like the Onkyo TX-NR717 is down to $549. Is that receiver a reasonable option as a bass management solution for a 2.1 audio setup paired with the Airmotiv 4s? The chain would go from my desktop PC via optical out to the NR717. The next level up TR-N818 is only appealing because of the jump from Audyssey EQ2 to Audyssey MultEQ XT32, but the price goes up dramatically to only gain that ability at $799. That may help manage the setup a bit better in my office but I don't see much else in that receiver that makes it worth the increase.
I guess it depends what you're listening to, how loudly, and how many subs you'll use. I'm a pretty big fan of sealed subs. If properly designed they couple nicely to room gain and give a flat response with minimal EQ. In an office I doubt you're listening loudly enough to need the extra output of the ported sub.I was doing some research on your suggestion of the Power Sound Audio subwoofers and they seem to have a positive acceptance from the user communities of various forums. What I haven't been able to easily answer is the pros and cons regarding the XV15 and the XS15. I know the XV is vented and the XS is sealed. The vented looks to be able to play a little louder and lower with a small increase is cost. I was leaning towards that one over the sealed but wasn't sure if there are other reasons to get the sealed vs the vented?
If you have that much control over exactly where they end up I'd put ear level between the midwoofer and the tweeter.Last, I'm planning to build a pair of small speaker stands out of wood to bring the height of the Airmotivs up to my ears. Where ideally should I raise them to? Should the tweeter be ear level or somewhere between the tweeter and the mid?
It's almost impossible to say without testing, it depends a lot on the room. Some speakers are designed to sound good in real rooms where it's pretty uncommon to have sound dampening on the walls, but they might have carpets, curtains, furniture and other things that affects the sound.
My point in the previous post was, you can try and add/remove/move around some natural damping materials in the room if you think the sound is "wrong". If more damping on the wall improves the sound, go ahead and buy some permanent wall treatment.
When it comes to vented vs closed enclosures, the vented tend to pay louder and lower but the closed design usually plays tighter and more controlled.
The 717 should do what you're after. You'd be paying a lot to get XT32.
I guess it depends what you're listening to, how loudly, and how many subs you'll use. I'm a pretty big fan of sealed subs. If properly designed they couple nicely to room gain and give a flat response with minimal EQ. In an office I doubt you're listening loudly enough to need the extra output of the ported sub.
If you have that much control over exactly where they end up I'd put ear level between the midwoofer and the tweeter.