Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Amy offered to take me to a bar tomorrow night, so I might do that. I don't know if I can drink anything or not, though. She tells me it's part of the experience, though.
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timwhit
Hairy Aussie
Might as well go, better than sitting at home. Have a few drinks, it will make talking to strangers easier. Have a few more and you can talk to anyone then.
James
Storage is cool
Yeah, me too. I'm waiting for Jake to say it's okay to start arranging a time. I think the new baby is keeping him a tad busy!Buck said:
Merc, Pradeep and I met in Sydney airport - I was coming back from Tokyo and he was going to NZ. I bought him a couple of sticks of Nanya 256MB registered CAS2 RAM back from Tokyo 'cos his Crucial stuff didn't seem to be faring well in his Tiger MP board.
I probably looked like hell (I don't sleep on planes) and Pradeep was looking resplendent in his Australian team uniform. Not one of my greatest moments, I'm sure, but it still counts.
Cliptin
Wannabe Storage Freak
Mercutio said:
I thought you were looking for a meaningful relationship. This is what I was talking about before. If you go to a bar and meet someone, you will have found someone who wants to meet people in bars. This doesn't sound appealing to me, does it to you?
I am going to agree with Buck. I have found that the times I have made myself do something I was squeamish about doing, I either learned to like it a little bit more or learned to appreciate the positive aspects which made it more tollerable.
Get used to "alone". It may be awhile.
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Cliptin said:
CougTek
Hairy Aussie
Mercutio was at Sydney's airport???James said:
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
I've never been on a plane, so it couldn't've been me at Sydney's airport.
The truth is, I don't really want to go to a bar. I want a reason to go home at night. I don't even like the idea of going to a bar. Still, the alternative is another night at home and I don't know how many more of those I can stand, either.
The truth is, I don't really want to go to a bar. I want a reason to go home at night. I don't even like the idea of going to a bar. Still, the alternative is another night at home and I don't know how many more of those I can stand, either.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Any suggestions for a first drink?
timwhit
Hairy Aussie
I always drink beer. But, I like long island iced tea's if you are looking for a mixed drink.
Cliptin
Wannabe Storage Freak
Mercutio said:
Are you looking for something you might enjoy or something that will remind you that you don't want to be there.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Not beer. Beer smells awful. As for the rest, I don't want to get drunk, no.
CougTek
Hairy Aussie
Then goes with any ladies' mix like B-52, Baileys or anything soft and sugary. You won't look tough (or go for dry Jack Daniels like I do), but for someone who isn't an alcohool amateur, then it might be better.
See what the ladies drink and order the same thing. But don't drink too much of this or your stomach won't appreciate. Sugar and alcohool mixed together is hard to digest.
See what the ladies drink and order the same thing. But don't drink too much of this or your stomach won't appreciate. Sugar and alcohool mixed together is hard to digest.
Cliptin
Wannabe Storage Freak
Mercutio said:
Do you like fruit? If so you might try a screwdriver or whiskey sour.
You should not taste any alchohol in the screwdriver, beware.
I always forget the names of the drinks I like since I don't go out very often. I only have one or two as well. I usually ask the bartender or waiter. Sometimes I just ask them to surprise me.
Read a little:
http://www.cocktailmaking.co.uk/
BTW, a LI ice tea is pretty potent.
timwhit
Hairy Aussie
Cliptin said:
Isn't that the point?
Try rum and coke, or just take shots of peppermint schnopps.
Have you ever been to a bar before?
Cliptin
Wannabe Storage Freak
timwhit said:
Merc, has made it clear that that is not his point.
Was the question directed at me?
jtr1962
Storage? I am Storage!
Mercutio said:
Amaretto is pretty good. Just have a very small glass and you won't get drunk on it, either. And that's coming from someone who gets drunk on one beer. :lol:
I'm a very occasional drinker. Maybe I'll have a half dozen beers in the course of the summer, so my alcohol tolerance is near zero, same as yours is I guess. I never liked the out of control feeling you get when you're drunk, so I don't drink often. I just happen to like the way an occasional beer tastes, although I'm not too keen on the deleterious effects. I've tried some of the alcohol-free ones. They all taste like crap to me. Never been to a bar in my life. I don't think I'd be able to find my way home after getting drunk, and I'm not too keen on the types I'd meet there anyway.
timwhit
Hairy Aussie
Cliptin said:
I was just joking around Cliptin, maybe I should use smileys next time...
Fushigi
Storage Is My Life
Malibu rum & pineapple juice. Tastes like coconut & pineapple. Usually the alcohol is not very strong although some bartenders are heavier on the Malibu than others. I could drink them all night without getting drunk, although I almost always stop after 2 of any drink.Mercutio said:
Of course, you can always just get a coke or some coffee. They're the most reasonably priced drinks at any bar.
- Fushigi
timwhit
Hairy Aussie
At most bars if you say you are the designated driver they will give you free coke. At least the bars I go to.
Dozer
Learning Storage Performance
Fushigi said:
Good point. There's no rule that says you HAVE to have a drink at a bar...and it can be quite expensive. If you want to try something pretty tasty and not terribly potent, and if you like coffee...try an Irish coffee (Bailey's and coffee blended).
Koggit
What is this storage?
My favorite drink is....oh woops....nevermind.
Tea
Storage? I am Storage!
Just so.Cliptin said:
Well, some of the times. Other times it has simply served to remind me how much I loathe that particular something and turn my squeamishness into an absolute and complete rejection. I place nightclubs in the latter category. As for bars, it depends on the bar, on the noise level (I can't abide not being able to have a conversation), and on who I am there with. In general, I don't like them. But sometimes, yes.Cliptin said:
Cliptin said:
Yup. But don't take that as an excuse for inaction.
Hey, go to that bar with Amy. You might like it, you might hate it. But you were going to be sitting at home alone feeling miserable anyway, so what have you got to loose? Dig down into your sock drawer and see if you can't find your very best open mind. (You've got one hidden away there somewhere, right?) Wear that and enjoy.
If nothing else, it will be a new and different experience.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Well, I tried at least. I managed to stay for about twenty minutes, until I got completely overwhelmed, then I walked home.
Tea was right about noise. I had forgotten all about it.
Tea was right about noise. I had forgotten all about it.
Tea
Storage? I am Storage!
Some good suggestions above on the "drinks for non-drinkers" front. Let me, as a confirmed newbie to alcohol and thus an expert in this area, make a couple of my own.
Gin squash. Goes down easy, a nice, refreshing, slightly bitter flavour. Rates about 5 on the Macho Cool scale (where neat Burbon rates 10 and chocolate milk rates 0).
Gin and Tonic. More of an aquired taste. Very refreshing but the bitterness of the gin might put you off. Macho Cool rating: 5.
Scotch and Coke. If you like scotch, it's the ruination of a good scotch. If you like Coke, it's the ruination of a good Coke. If you don't like scotch or coke, it just tastes of icky-sweet Coke and vomit at the same time. Only thing to be said for it is that it rates about 7 on the MC scale.
Dark rum and Coke. See Scotch and Coke.
Light rum and Coke. (e.g., Baccardi.) Not a bad choice. You hardly taste the rum. MC rating: 6.
Burbon and Coke. Just as icky-sweet but a more concentrated and disctinctive vomit flavour. MC rating: 8. The only thing to be said for it is that, if you absolutely, positively have to get drunk and you absolutely positively can't get hold of anything except burbon, then at least the Coke makes some attempt to hide the flavour.
Brandy and Coke. A little on the icky-sweet side but quite palatable. You could do worse. MC rating: 6.
Brandy and Dry. Much nicer flavour. A bit morish. A good choice. MC rating: 5.
Brandy, lime and soda. The stand out best choice for the beginning drinker. Sweet without being icky, refreshing, goes down very easily and will soon have you asking for another one. Doesn't give you that bad taste at the back of your mouth that many drinks do. Rates 5 to 7 on the Macho Cool scale - the variation being because, although it's a bit of a "girl's drink" and actually tastes good, it is also a subtle sign that you are a man who knows his own mind and has an educated pallete.
Lemon, lime and bitters. Switch to this if you don't want to get any drunker than you already are. MC rating: 6. Like scotch or brandy, lime and soda, it is an educated man's drink. Almost non-alcoholic, mostly soda, but the delightful bitterness of the few drops of Angostura bittersadds a welcome touch of subtlety that rescues it from being just another soft drink.
White wine. Varies enormously. Can taste very nice, or absolutely dreadful. The stuff they serve in bars tends toward the latter. Can make you feel nauseous and very ill very quickly if you are not used to it.MC rating: 3 to 9. To score a "9" you have to know a fair bit about wine. When drunk by the beginner, scores 3.
Red wine. See white wine.
Champagne. Great fun. Horrendous hangover. You will have the best time you ever had in your entire life for a half hour. Then the worst time you ever had in your entire life for about 12 hours. Not recommended for beginners. MC rating: N/A (because either everybody drinks Champagne or nobody drinks it).
Screwdriver: (tomato juice and vodka). Not bad. MC rating 6. You hardly taste the vodka. But a characterless drink. Has no particular merit, but keep it in mind as a possible standby if you can't get a brandy, lime and soda.
Fushigi's pineapple juice thingie: sounds palatable if a little unsubtle. MC rating only 2 but what the hell - at least it tastes better than burbon. You could do worse.
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As a non-drinker, you want to have about three drinks at a moderate pace. Not too fast (you will get quite drunk and feel silly, then ill), not too slow (or you will just wind up with a vague feeling of lifelessness and a background headache). Two to five drinks at a moderate pace will give you a little lift, let you feel a bit more outgoing, help you enjoy life. It is no accident that alcohol and socialising go together, it really does help. Don't forget that everybody else will be drinking a good deal more than you will, so if you start to feel foolish and self-conscious, put that thought firmly away - no-one will notice, and if they do, no-one will care. In the morning, they will all be far too busy wondering what silly things they themselves got up to and won't spare a thought for analysing what you did or said. Just loosen up and enjoy yourself.
It depends on your body weight and your physiology, but I'd plan on sipping your way through three brandy, lime and sodas over the first hour, then switching to lemon, lime and bitters if you start to feel a little too drunk. Getting the dosage right is an art form. Like most things you get better at it with practice. But if you start as above, you won't be too far off the mark.
Gin squash. Goes down easy, a nice, refreshing, slightly bitter flavour. Rates about 5 on the Macho Cool scale (where neat Burbon rates 10 and chocolate milk rates 0).
Gin and Tonic. More of an aquired taste. Very refreshing but the bitterness of the gin might put you off. Macho Cool rating: 5.
Scotch and Coke. If you like scotch, it's the ruination of a good scotch. If you like Coke, it's the ruination of a good Coke. If you don't like scotch or coke, it just tastes of icky-sweet Coke and vomit at the same time. Only thing to be said for it is that it rates about 7 on the MC scale.
Dark rum and Coke. See Scotch and Coke.
Light rum and Coke. (e.g., Baccardi.) Not a bad choice. You hardly taste the rum. MC rating: 6.
Burbon and Coke. Just as icky-sweet but a more concentrated and disctinctive vomit flavour. MC rating: 8. The only thing to be said for it is that, if you absolutely, positively have to get drunk and you absolutely positively can't get hold of anything except burbon, then at least the Coke makes some attempt to hide the flavour.
Brandy and Coke. A little on the icky-sweet side but quite palatable. You could do worse. MC rating: 6.
Brandy and Dry. Much nicer flavour. A bit morish. A good choice. MC rating: 5.
Brandy, lime and soda. The stand out best choice for the beginning drinker. Sweet without being icky, refreshing, goes down very easily and will soon have you asking for another one. Doesn't give you that bad taste at the back of your mouth that many drinks do. Rates 5 to 7 on the Macho Cool scale - the variation being because, although it's a bit of a "girl's drink" and actually tastes good, it is also a subtle sign that you are a man who knows his own mind and has an educated pallete.
Lemon, lime and bitters. Switch to this if you don't want to get any drunker than you already are. MC rating: 6. Like scotch or brandy, lime and soda, it is an educated man's drink. Almost non-alcoholic, mostly soda, but the delightful bitterness of the few drops of Angostura bittersadds a welcome touch of subtlety that rescues it from being just another soft drink.
White wine. Varies enormously. Can taste very nice, or absolutely dreadful. The stuff they serve in bars tends toward the latter. Can make you feel nauseous and very ill very quickly if you are not used to it.MC rating: 3 to 9. To score a "9" you have to know a fair bit about wine. When drunk by the beginner, scores 3.
Red wine. See white wine.
Champagne. Great fun. Horrendous hangover. You will have the best time you ever had in your entire life for a half hour. Then the worst time you ever had in your entire life for about 12 hours. Not recommended for beginners. MC rating: N/A (because either everybody drinks Champagne or nobody drinks it).
Screwdriver: (tomato juice and vodka). Not bad. MC rating 6. You hardly taste the vodka. But a characterless drink. Has no particular merit, but keep it in mind as a possible standby if you can't get a brandy, lime and soda.
Fushigi's pineapple juice thingie: sounds palatable if a little unsubtle. MC rating only 2 but what the hell - at least it tastes better than burbon. You could do worse.
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As a non-drinker, you want to have about three drinks at a moderate pace. Not too fast (you will get quite drunk and feel silly, then ill), not too slow (or you will just wind up with a vague feeling of lifelessness and a background headache). Two to five drinks at a moderate pace will give you a little lift, let you feel a bit more outgoing, help you enjoy life. It is no accident that alcohol and socialising go together, it really does help. Don't forget that everybody else will be drinking a good deal more than you will, so if you start to feel foolish and self-conscious, put that thought firmly away - no-one will notice, and if they do, no-one will care. In the morning, they will all be far too busy wondering what silly things they themselves got up to and won't spare a thought for analysing what you did or said. Just loosen up and enjoy yourself.
It depends on your body weight and your physiology, but I'd plan on sipping your way through three brandy, lime and sodas over the first hour, then switching to lemon, lime and bitters if you start to feel a little too drunk. Getting the dosage right is an art form. Like most things you get better at it with practice. But if you start as above, you won't be too far off the mark.
Tea
Storage? I am Storage!
lose
Why do I always spell "lose" with a double "o"?
And it looks like I'm a little late with my advice. Oh well, so be it.
Why do I always spell "lose" with a double "o"?
And it looks like I'm a little late with my advice. Oh well, so be it.
Tannin
Storage? I am Storage!
By the way, the thing that gets to me about noise is conversation. I have excellent hearing, and am perfectly capable of doing things like pulling out the guitar from a bit of music where there are six instruments all playing at the same time and just listening to that single instrument, and yet still being aware of the other things that are going on (the bass player, the singer, and so on).
But when it comes to conversation, if there is a lot of background noise, I have to concentrate fiercly to seperate out one particular person's words and make sense of them. I can do it, but it's hard work, it makes me tense up with the concentration, and I don't relax and enjoy myself. Also, the person I am talking to senses this and it makes them feel uncomfortable too. It reminds me a little of conversing in a foreign language - you know how you have to give your whole attention to the words and after a half-hour or so you feel quite worn out?
I think one of the things that makes this more difficult is that I happen to be almost blind to body language and facial expression. I can read people as well as the next man (notice that I don't say "the next woman" - women, as a rule, are far, far better at this than we convex types are) but I do it by paying attention to aural cues, not visual ones. Almost unconsciously, I hear the tiny variations in tone of voice, in choice of words, in timing and phrasing, where most people do this only a little and do most of their mood-reading with their eyes.
This makes me a wizard at telephone conversations - you wouldn't believe how much stuff I sell over the telephone - and, converesly, makes me into an instant social retard the moment you turn the music up. So far as picking up girls at a nightclub goes, I have a 100% losing record. Give me a nice quiet corner where we can chat and I do OK.
But when it comes to conversation, if there is a lot of background noise, I have to concentrate fiercly to seperate out one particular person's words and make sense of them. I can do it, but it's hard work, it makes me tense up with the concentration, and I don't relax and enjoy myself. Also, the person I am talking to senses this and it makes them feel uncomfortable too. It reminds me a little of conversing in a foreign language - you know how you have to give your whole attention to the words and after a half-hour or so you feel quite worn out?
I think one of the things that makes this more difficult is that I happen to be almost blind to body language and facial expression. I can read people as well as the next man (notice that I don't say "the next woman" - women, as a rule, are far, far better at this than we convex types are) but I do it by paying attention to aural cues, not visual ones. Almost unconsciously, I hear the tiny variations in tone of voice, in choice of words, in timing and phrasing, where most people do this only a little and do most of their mood-reading with their eyes.
This makes me a wizard at telephone conversations - you wouldn't believe how much stuff I sell over the telephone - and, converesly, makes me into an instant social retard the moment you turn the music up. So far as picking up girls at a nightclub goes, I have a 100% losing record. Give me a nice quiet corner where we can chat and I do OK.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
I will keep you advice - once I figure out what "MC" is - close at hand. But what is an under-10 chimp doing advising me on drinks?
I'm sure I'll try again. soon.
I'm sure I'll try again. soon.
Dozer
Learning Storage Performance
A woman that is interested in a nice, quiet chat is most desireable to me, anyway...I never have understood the whole "picking up girls" routine. A woman willing to be picked up at a bar is NOT the type of person I want to meet, nor have any of the women I've dated been this type of person. It's been my experience that women willing to be picked up in bars, on average, are not the basis for deep and meaningful relationships (I also realize that many men are not looking for deep and meaningful relationships). I would personally rather be single than be with the wrong woman (I've been with the wrong woman before, and it's no picnic), and I think that, at least for me, a bar is not the place to meet the right person. Most often, the romantic relationships I have developed have come from out of the blue, and totally blindsided me (in a good way). I guess I'd rather be pleasantly surprised by meeting someone naturally than disappointed from an unsuccessful evening of bar-hopping.Tannin said:
Tea
Storage? I am Storage!
Just so, Dozer.
Groltz
My demeaning user rank is
Mercutio said:
Tea, once and for all, are you a chimpanzee or an orangutan? I thought your avatar was of a young orangutan...
Tea
Storage? I am Storage!
Quite so, Groltz. While I don't want to say anything unkind about my African brothers-in-fur, we orangutans consider ourselves a cut above the common chimpanze.
We look quite different. Here is a young chimp, about my age. (I'm not sure who he is, I just found his picture on the web.)
As you can see, he has black fur and a protuberant jaw. We orangs, on the other hand, have pretty orange fur and beautiful big, soulful eyes. Here is a picture of me having a short rest.
We can get around on terra firma OK but we climb so well that up in a nice big tree we make chimps look almost as clumsy as humans. (No offence to my human friends, of course. It's not your fault that you aren't very good climbers. You just didn't choose your parents very carefully.) One reason that we orangs can climb so well is that we are very flexible. Here is another one of my baby photos:
Chimps are quite good climbers too, but they spend most of their lives on the ground, while my family tradition is that we spend nearly all our time up in the wide open spaces of the treetops. I am actually a bit of a throw-back: I like to get down low and play with DB, and Buck if he's had a couple too many. My mother would probably be ashamed of me, if she was still alive.
I don't talk about this very often, but that's why I had to come and live with Tannin. I escaped from a beautiful jungle in Borneo just before the horrible, greedy Javanese Empire came along and cut all the trees down and burned everything up, including my whole family. (They call themselves "Indonesians" now, but everybody knows that "Indonesia" is really just a whole lot of different islands all ruled over by the island of Java.) My cousins over in Sumatra - that's the island just north of Java - have mostly been killed off too. Pretty soon, there won't be anyone left at all - and that is the only two places in the whole world where there are orangeutans: Borneo and Sumatra. In the last 20 years, 80% of our jungle has been turned into this:
It's very sad.
Still, Tannin looks after me pretty well, and sort of gives me the run of the place, and he's amazingly paitent with me really. I mean, there are not many people who would have let me take over their whole workshop just to crunch proteins on. Sometimes he gets grumpy, but deep down he's a very nice man. Hell, for a human, he's as nice as you can get.
(Well, sometimes.)
Anyway, I didn't mean to bore you with my story. I am happy here, living in Tannin's imagination. (Tannin's imagination, by the way, is enormous! I can walk all day and still never reach the end of it. I think it might be even bigger than Borneo!) And I always enjoy coming here and talking to all my human friends. (And my carnivourous friends too, of course - hi Jake, hi JTR.) But please, don't ever, ever buy any rain forest timber, and if any of the other islands in the Indoenisan archipeligo ask for your help (as the East Timorese did a year or two ago), be as kind and generous to them as you were when you sent the US Marines over to help out the Australians and the Portugese and the New Zealanders in Timor.
Thanks for listening,
Tea.
We look quite different. Here is a young chimp, about my age. (I'm not sure who he is, I just found his picture on the web.)
As you can see, he has black fur and a protuberant jaw. We orangs, on the other hand, have pretty orange fur and beautiful big, soulful eyes. Here is a picture of me having a short rest.
We can get around on terra firma OK but we climb so well that up in a nice big tree we make chimps look almost as clumsy as humans. (No offence to my human friends, of course. It's not your fault that you aren't very good climbers. You just didn't choose your parents very carefully.) One reason that we orangs can climb so well is that we are very flexible. Here is another one of my baby photos:
Chimps are quite good climbers too, but they spend most of their lives on the ground, while my family tradition is that we spend nearly all our time up in the wide open spaces of the treetops. I am actually a bit of a throw-back: I like to get down low and play with DB, and Buck if he's had a couple too many. My mother would probably be ashamed of me, if she was still alive.
I don't talk about this very often, but that's why I had to come and live with Tannin. I escaped from a beautiful jungle in Borneo just before the horrible, greedy Javanese Empire came along and cut all the trees down and burned everything up, including my whole family. (They call themselves "Indonesians" now, but everybody knows that "Indonesia" is really just a whole lot of different islands all ruled over by the island of Java.) My cousins over in Sumatra - that's the island just north of Java - have mostly been killed off too. Pretty soon, there won't be anyone left at all - and that is the only two places in the whole world where there are orangeutans: Borneo and Sumatra. In the last 20 years, 80% of our jungle has been turned into this:
It's very sad.
Still, Tannin looks after me pretty well, and sort of gives me the run of the place, and he's amazingly paitent with me really. I mean, there are not many people who would have let me take over their whole workshop just to crunch proteins on. Sometimes he gets grumpy, but deep down he's a very nice man. Hell, for a human, he's as nice as you can get.
(Well, sometimes.)
Anyway, I didn't mean to bore you with my story. I am happy here, living in Tannin's imagination. (Tannin's imagination, by the way, is enormous! I can walk all day and still never reach the end of it. I think it might be even bigger than Borneo!) And I always enjoy coming here and talking to all my human friends. (And my carnivourous friends too, of course - hi Jake, hi JTR.) But please, don't ever, ever buy any rain forest timber, and if any of the other islands in the Indoenisan archipeligo ask for your help (as the East Timorese did a year or two ago), be as kind and generous to them as you were when you sent the US Marines over to help out the Australians and the Portugese and the New Zealanders in Timor.
Thanks for listening,
Tea.
Pradeep
Storage? I am Storage!
I didn't realise that the US sent troops to East Timor?
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Chimp is easier to spell than oraguatang. Hence, Tea is a chimp.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Dozer said:A woman that is interested in a nice, quiet chat is most desireable to me, anyway...I never have understood the whole "picking up girls" routine. A woman willing to be picked up at a bar is NOT the type of person I want to meet, nor have any of the women I've dated been this type of person.Tannin said:
I'm the last person who is capable of "picking up" a girl. I'd be really happy, though, if I could prove to myself that I can hold down a conversation with someone I don't know very well, outside a business setting. From what I saw last night, I don't know that I'd want to have much of anything to do with the women at a bar, either, but if I can build enough confidence to talk to someone I *would* want to talk to after talking to them, I'd be really happy.
jtr1962
Storage? I am Storage!
Tea said:
Thanks, Tea.
I always like hearing the primate's point of view on many topics. I wasn't quite sure how to feel about Jake at first, though(I didn't want to end up as an entree, you know ). Now that I know him better and realize he's not interested in me as an appetizer, Jake seems pretty cool.
Buck
Storage? I am Storage!
Quiet bars and quiet corners; bars are not for picking up women in my opinion. Bars are for socializing, entertainment, and relaxation. If the bar is too noisy, it will not be relaxing. If you feel obliged to watch some sporting event with a bunch of hooligans, it is not relaxing. You should be able to converse, laugh, debate, and enjoy the company of other people. A bar should be a good place where a group of friends can enjoy their time (even when with your wife or girlfriend). If you are a man of solitude, the bar should be comfortable just the same.
If you can find the right bar Mercutio, I wouldn’t expect that you’ll find yourself a girlfriend. However, you could find yourself a few friends or buddies, and in turn, they may know someone that you could date – but this will take some time. Believe it or not, just going to a bar, ordering some inexpensive drink and perhaps even a small snack, can be fun. If he’s not too busy, have the odd chat with the bartender. They’re usually amiable fellows. Since I happen to like beer, I’ve even gone to bars and just drank alcohol-free beers and had a couple of appetizers. They’ll serve you with gratitude just the same as if you ordered a dozen Tom Collins, and they’ll appreciate that you aren’t walking out of the bar drunk (just don’t forget a decent tip). If you become a regular (once a week), you might even find the bartender or waitress gives you free drinks or food.
One word of caution, bars don’t always have the best coffee.
As far as the aforementioned drink scale goes, I don’t think any drink is macho. If a woman thinks that you are special because you like Bourbon neat, then it’s time to find someone else to chat with.
If you can find the right bar Mercutio, I wouldn’t expect that you’ll find yourself a girlfriend. However, you could find yourself a few friends or buddies, and in turn, they may know someone that you could date – but this will take some time. Believe it or not, just going to a bar, ordering some inexpensive drink and perhaps even a small snack, can be fun. If he’s not too busy, have the odd chat with the bartender. They’re usually amiable fellows. Since I happen to like beer, I’ve even gone to bars and just drank alcohol-free beers and had a couple of appetizers. They’ll serve you with gratitude just the same as if you ordered a dozen Tom Collins, and they’ll appreciate that you aren’t walking out of the bar drunk (just don’t forget a decent tip). If you become a regular (once a week), you might even find the bartender or waitress gives you free drinks or food.
One word of caution, bars don’t always have the best coffee.
As far as the aforementioned drink scale goes, I don’t think any drink is macho. If a woman thinks that you are special because you like Bourbon neat, then it’s time to find someone else to chat with.
Cliptin
Wannabe Storage Freak
Mercutio said:
Are you sure you weren't slipped something?