That's kind of what I figured. Some deal will come around again and I can just add on to my ZFS pool over time.Over the course of a month, the Seagate and Hitachi drives both seem to go on sale for at least one week at both Amazon and Newegg, but limit 2 and limit 5 are both very common.
Just play a waiting game and you'll get your setup working sooner or later.
What platform are you planning to use with ZFS?
BTW, I see a 10% coupon promotion on them now at Newegg. "10% off w/ promo code AF0925EX, limited offer"That's kind of what I figured. Some deal will come around again and I can just add on to my ZFS pool over time.
I missed that coupon code but now they have another coupon for $20 off (EMCPAGP55) limit 5 on the same HGST NAS 4TB drives.BTW, I see a 10% coupon promotion on them now at Newegg. "10% off w/ promo code AF0925EX, limited offer"
I believe that they historically buy in sufficient volume that they're more concerned with getting a certain number of spindles of a certain capacity at a time rather than any other characteristic or metric. They buy whatever their logistics can give them. During the storage crisis after the floods in Singapore, they were actually to the point of buying up all the high capacity external drives they could find in retail outlets because those were by that point the only drives they could get at a reasonable price. Clearly, they aren't picky.It looks like they use consumer drives in NAS or SAN, etc. I'm not sure how that equates to PC use, but all my 3-4 TB Seagates are working just fine.
I thought the 7200 RPM 6TB Hitachi NADS drive was a nice one for modern use. :scratch:Just remember to run out and buy HGST drives!!! I'll be buying the Toshiba drives though.
Hopefully they'll move past 4TB though.
After wasting a lot of hours trying to find the truth, I think this is mostly true: the designs for the legacy HGST desktop models passed to Toshiba, along with the factories. Toshiba also received enough IP to be able to design (or complete a design for) new 5TB and 6TB drives, which are now available. The Toshiba-branded models are reported to be quieter, but that may be just a normal incremental product improvement.I'm confused and it seems they are too. HGST is WD. The Hitachi Deskstar drives that they like are now sold as Toshiba, not HGST (a WD company).
The write ups I read a while back indicated that WD had to "give" the 3.5" drive portion of the business to Toshiba in order for regulators to approve the WD/HGST merger/acquisition. If that's the case I don't think they would be able to keep any portion of HGST's 3.5" drives or designs. That would point to the HGST drive being relabeled WD drives targeted at a different market segment.In contrast, I've noticed that HGST seems to be concentrating on "NAS" drives and "Enterprise" drives (Ultrastar). Presumably, these are newer designs that HGST kept for themselves - note that the exact details of the 3-way agreement have not been publicly revealed.
Is BackBlaze like the company behind Amazon or the Google storage or something else?I did a little investigation after reading about HGST here and also couldn't determine if they're made by WD or not. Even if they are, BackBlaze seems to have good luck with their 4TB drives in the environment they run them in. I'm hoping mine hold up as well as BB has reported.
If you read the comments on the BackBlaze article, one of the employees of the blog indicated in a few weeks they will publish the raw data from their statistics which means more analysts can be done (assuming their data is complete). One post suggested their database of info was over 3GB.
It's been several years now, so I'm sure when they will separate. Hitachi is still known as IBM by some, so perhaps they like the association.Usually after a merger/acquisition one of the brands lingers around for a little while before being swallowed up. It seems like HGST is in the phase-out portion which is why their HGST logo has "A Western Digital company" under it. They're getting people used to the fact that HGST is WD.
Similar. Most importantly they have enough drives to provide legit aggregate data (as opposed to the anecdotes that we can offer).Is BackBlaze like the company behind Amazon or the Google storage or something else?
Not that I'm aware of. They're an inexpensive cloud backup provider for individuals. I haven't explored their entire offering so it's possible they may offer enterprise/corporate back now also.Is BackBlaze like the company behind Amazon or the Google storage or something else?
I had 4. One died.And I have 3 of those seagate 3TB drives....
When I open Seagate USB enclosures they almost always have the eco-type drives in them.I have two USB3.0 3.0TB Seagate Backup Plus drives that I use for offline backup. I wonder if the failure prone 3TB Seagate drives are in those.
Are those the 59000 RPM drives or something else?When I open Seagate USB enclosures they almost always have the eco-type drives in them.
I have over a dozen of the 4TB 5900RPM drives. There are only a few tens or hundreds of hours on the drives, which are normally used for backups or offsite archives.Yes. The cheapies.
More of the same.Update from Backblaze here.
Well, you could click the link and see.What about 6TB?