Or just get a Ryzen 2400G APU for about $136. If you don't want a gaming PC, you likely won't notice the difference between 4 cores/8 threads and 6 cores/12 threads. The IGP on the Ryzen is superior to anything from Intel.
Exactly, price is no longer their main selling point because they seem to have better performance and better power consumption than Intel so they can charge comparable prices to Intel and still win out on overall value.
Except now we're talking about 3rd gen Ryzen which seems to have better performance on a core for core basis even with Intel's higher clocks. They no longer seem to need 1.5x as many cores and twice as much power to outperform Intel.
It's nice that you don't think so, but the evidence (so far) is not on your side. Unless you've build a 3rd gen Ryzen with comparable core counts to the i5-9400 you're making a wild guess that appears to fly in the face of the data that exists. AMD is showing under load number that directly contradict your claims. PCIe 4.0 is going to increase idle power consumption though.
No. You're working under the assumption that -- somehow -- Intel's prices are the "correct" ones. No such thing. The customer *is* price sensitive. AMD isn't stupid; they're raising prices because Intel won't lower theirs.
I am? How did you determine that? Have you been reading my thoughts again?
No. Just what you're writing.
Where did I say that Intel's processors were priced right or correct? I simply pointed out that AMD had no reason any longer to drastically undercut Intel on price because they can still make their traditional value argument but now at a comparable price to Intel. Hence the higher prices. Which is basically the same thing you said about them raising prices.No. Just what you're writing.
I guess that's what happens when you dole out low single digit % IPC improvements with every generation for 8+ years and sit on the same process node for 5. You get passed. The fact that they didn't see this coming seems hard to fathom.
1) Why are you looking for an upgrade? 2) Go read the reviews.
Wait, if you're not in the states, how did you feel the earthquake in CA/NV the other day?
50% more money on the CPU (supposedly) for something like to 33% more performance... Depending on the pricing of the Zen 2 based Threadripper they still might make more sense. Even if the 32 core one is 2x the price of the 3950X for ~2x the performance it'll still likely be cheaper to build one TR system than two 3950x systems.
So same as the last ones.
And give up about 10% CPU performance.
Maybe. It does look like there are a few sub $200 X570 options though.
