So ..... who wants a 1D III?

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Well, funny you should say that, Dave, as I'm fond of the old boy and wouldn't mind keeping a few bits of him around the place. I was thinking that a humanskin rug might look nice in the lounge room, or I could possibly use a skull for an ashtray. (I don't smoke, but I could always take it up.)

Anyway, I'll have one camera too many before too long. Not sure which one to sell, open to persuasion really. I need to get rid of one out of -

My original 20D
My second 20D (the one that had the shutter replaced)
My 400D (only about 6 months old).

The 400D has done very little work; the second 20D has done ~80K actuations but has a new shutter with maybe 5K since then; the older 20D has done ... well, no idea really, possibly 30K or 50K. All three work just fine.

Also, lenses. I have:

EF-S 18-55: rather battered but functional and very cheap
EF 50 1.8 II: probably not worth selling this, but maybe
EF 24-105 f/4L Almost new. Not convinced that this is the right lens for me. Open to offers.

I'll keep the 500/4, 100-400, 10-22, 60 macro, and TS-E 24.

Also, I'll probably get a 40D as well before too long, which will mean I have a second one of the three cameras above to sell. (I'm thinking I'll still get a 40D to use as a spare (I never go out anyware without a spare camera), for landscapes and general stuff, and for birds where I'm focal length limited.)
 

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So fas as I can discover, Doug, the little tart spent six thousand three hundred and fifty of my dollars. That's a few hundred below standard retail, but if there is one thing I am quite certain of, it is that it wouldn't have mattered if it was well above retail, she would have spent it anyway. Lord only knows what else she ordered while my back was turned. Every time a new car pulls up outside the shop I have to hope like crazy it isn't for me!
 

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That's about US$5100 at today's conversion rate. Stanard retail in Oz is AU$6500.

Bag. Well, that's another topic. Right now I sling tripod, 500mm lens and one camera over my right shoulder, and everything else in a Lowepro Specialist 85 AW bag, which is brilliant! It has a big, soft waist belt and a shoulder strap, either one holds the entire weight. Mostly, you use both and you hardly feel it. It holds (as examples)

* 400D & 10-22 in one half
* 20D & 24-105 in other half
* assorted small stuff like 1.4 converter and etc in side pockets

Another example:

* 20D & 24-105 in one half
* 10-22, 60 macro, TS-E 24, 1.4 TC and close-up ring in other half
* assorted small stuff

The 100-400 I sling on my left shoulder, where it dangles and gets in the way a lot. I'm about to try a Kinesis belt system instead or as well as the Lowepro bag. http://kgear.com I think is the address. They have a belt to which I can atach a holster to contain the 100-400 and a camera body without reversing the lens hood. I'll let you know what I think.
 

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So fas as I can discover, Doug, the little tart spent six thousand three hundred and fifty of my dollars. That's a few hundred below standard retail, but if there is one thing I am quite certain of, it is that it wouldn't have mattered if it was well above retail, she would have spent it anyway. Lord only knows what else she ordered while my back was turned. Every time a new car pulls up outside the shop I have to hope like crazy it isn't for me!

I've been close to biting the bullet too. I was just about ready to look for one and then ran into the auto focus threads. Though now I'm seeing for what I do the AI server focus mode isn't a big deal to me unless I'm doing sports. Everything else about the camera I really do like and judging by what the 1Ds III will cost, the 1D III will be about as good as I'll ever need (until the IV comes out. ;) ). So what made you decide to buy it yesterday? You seemed set on getting the 40D and were going to wait on the 1DIII.

Right now I'm using the LowePro mini Trekker backpack and I can fit everything in it:
20D with battery bar
70-200mm
100mm macro
50mmm
17-85
580EXmm
binoculars
assorted crap (battery chager, AA's, etc)

I'll need something more for a second camera when I travel with it all. The Kinesis looks interesting because you can add on as needed for some of their things. I'm still leaning towards a Lowepro bag, but I'm in a severe lack of decent photography stores in my area. I'd like to look at some of these before buying online.
 

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Not only the bodies, Beery One, but (finally!) they have announced a set of modern, image stabilised super-tele lenses. Nikon, it seems. are seriously tired of seeing nothing but Big White at the football, cricket, baseball, olympics ... you name it, Canon lenses take the shots. They are tired of the drift of pros over to the Canon system - and they are actually doing something abpout it. Good for Nikon!

But (there is always a but) they have yet to physically deliver any of these products, and Nikon have a very bad habit of taking forever to get product out the door, and when they do get production underway, of dribbling stock out such that things are in shortage for months or even years.

Their body pricing is very competitive, but (another bad Nikon habit) the lens prices are much higher than Canon's - and if you are familiar with the prices Canon charge for a 500/4 or a 400/2.8, you would wonder how anything could be even more.

Nevertheless, there are now two serious camera system makers, and that has to be a good thing.
 

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I like that Nikon was able to achieve 9 FPS on a 12.3 MP sensor. That's pretty decent. Did I read it right that the D3 can go to "ISO 25,600"? I can only imagine how much noise must be in that.

I've done some shopping around and I cannot find anyone who has the 1D Mark III in my area or online except Amazon (which is ridiculous in price). I'm surprised how hard it is to find one around here even after a few months. I've called all the local shops I know of in my area and in other states and no one has them in stock.
 

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ID IIIs are practically impossible to find in stock, Doug. Essentially, you have to somehow persuade your friendly camera shop person that you are the customer among a whole lot of other customers who deserves the 1D III he has coming in this week.

PS: I could ask Tea to make the call for you if you like. She seems to be good at it.

PPS: Don't leave her alone with your credit card!
 

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I need Tea's connections! Perhaps a visit to my Aussie neighbors to pick up a camera and try it out in a beautiful place. ;)
 

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Come on over Doug. This early spring day is perfect: clear sky, bright sunshine with just a touch of breeze to remind me that winter's chill is still not far away, the birds are calling, the wildflowers are budding, and my ID III arrived a couple of hours ago. Life is good.

Well, life would be good if Mr Bloody Slavedriver didn't have me stuck here in the office till 5 o'clock, not even allowed to slip over to the park for a few minutes while the sunshine lasts.
 

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I head that!

Who's new camera?

Sorry, I can't hear you.

Louder than that.

Thankyou.

Now, stop stuffing about on Storage Forum and do something bloody useful for a change. Have you got that router confgured yet? And what about Mrs Jackson's system, is it built? Well, get on with it!
 

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It's really that good at ISO 6400 (have any samples yet)?! I'm so jealous (in a good way). Tea, you have good taste, even if you're spending the big guys hard earned money. I got my tickets, I'll be there in about 15-20 hours. :)
 

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Now that you have the king of Canons, what is your opinion on Nikon's new releases? It's always nice to get opinions from Canon users, as they provide a different perspective than those of Nikon fanboys.
 

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I called another six places today during my lunch and no one has it. Tannin can be my guinea pig for now, until they come in stock.
 

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Now that you have the king of Canons, what is your opinion on Nikon's new releases? It's always nice to get opinions from Canon users, as they provide a different perspective than those of Nikon fanboys.
I'm a Canon user... The new Nikons look very nice from their spec sheets. Hopefully Canon will use the 5d MkII to take a shot at the Nikon D3.
 

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When is the 5D/II slated to be released? The D3 will be a hard act to follow for the 5D/II, as I don't know if Canon wants to cannibalize sales of the 1D/III by making the 5D/II too good.
 

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When is the 5D/II slated to be released? The D3 will be a hard act to follow for the 5D/II, as I don't know if Canon wants to cannibalize sales of the 1D/III by making the 5D/II too good.
No idea on a date. I wouldn't expect Canon to make the 5D/II compete tit for tat with the D3 as they're targeting different markets at different price points, but I would expect Canon to make the 5D/II a very compelling lower cost Full Frame alternative to the D3. Something like 80% of the performance for 1/2 the cost. Basically, I'd expect the 5D/II to be the same resolution as the 5D with ~6FPS with improved noise and ISO performance, improved metering, and an improved AF system. The 1Ds/III is chasing a completely different market than Nikon's D3, and the 1D/III is not a FF camera. That basically leaves nothing to even come close to matching up with the D3 unless Canon brings the goods with the 5D/II.

Nikon seems to have put both the D300 and D3 squarely into the holes in Canon's line-up. Kudos to them, as Canon will respond accordingly and us Canon users will get better cameras as a response.
 

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Competition surely improves the breed. A few years ago, before I had really entertained the notion of getting a dSLR, I would have never purchased a (consumer level) Nikon dSLR. It would have been a Canon Rebel XT, 10D, or 20D with an IS and USM lens. Only after the D70 came out that I might have even considered Nikon. And only more recently, when Nikon started putting SWM and VR on consumer lenses, did I seriously consider them.

And even then, I proclaimed to another friend who is into photography: Nikon is just too far behind Canon. Canon is always one generation ahead. They are a massive company with way more money and access to technology than Nikon will ever have, don't have the legacy F-mount, old school AF drive, and old lenses hanging around their necks like an albatross, and the gap can only get wider as Canon prospers and Nikon struggles.

Looks like there is now more of a fair fight than ever before in the industry. Nikon and Canon are going to be slugging it out punching and counterpunching like true heavyweights for the next decade, it seems.

Despite Konica + Minolta + Sony joining forces (and Sony actually making most of the sensors that the other companies use in their products), they still haven't been able to do anything significant in the industry. The Alpha had potential, but not enough to overcome the risk of going with the more obscure KM-Sony system. Pentax is nipping at the leaders' heels with the capable K series SLRs, but with some design flaws, haven't been able to come through with a world-beater and have to contend with their 2nd tier status as well.
 
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