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It's in final, Mickey. And as stable as ... er ... a really stable thing.

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Thankyou, small whiskery one. :) Actually, Tannin and I iz on the hunt for new zigs at the moment, so be sure not to zay anything too memorable round here .... or you might find yourzelf immortalized in my next zig.

Yo! Uncle Greg is back! (It ain't five o'clock yet. Get back to work!) (But I waz only -) (Now!) (OK, OK. I waz only zaying hello to my Uncle Greg. Keep your fur on.)

Oh, lest I be misunderstood, there ain't nothing wrong with the Moz email client. It's just not needed when I already have a competent email package - PMMail in my case.

(Tannin?) (Mmmmm?) (Why are we writing poztz to each other when there are zo many interesting threadz we haven't even read properly yet, let alone replied to?) (Possibly because you keep asking such idiot questions, Tea.) (No. Zeriously!) (Probably because it's half past one in the morning...

OK. Zorry. I think Mercutio got confuzed between us. Dunno why. I'm so much better looking, after all. And anyway, I didn't mean that Mercutio was an AOL-er. Just that I wish Moz would only load up all that other cra .... er ... stuff when required. Like three timez a year. Lookz to me like they...

I thought I ztole it from Cliptin :o

And it's good news, in my book. Lean and mean is the way to go. The only part of Moz I use is the browser. Everything else is useless crap. (The same exact comment applies to all the otrher browsers too, of course. If I need to send an email I'll use an email client. If I need to edit some HTML...

A dolop of Arctic Silver should bring you down to maybe 45C at idle. Worth the trouble? Perhaps. Put it this way, I'd do it if I was pulling the lid off anyway, to fit a new CD drive or something, but I wouldn't bother at this stage just for that one small job.

Cool! :wink:

Whooah! You better zend another zhirt, pronto, Merc! EdwardK waz a zeriouz contributor! You know that old-fazhioned Auzzie bush hat we pazzed around over on this zide of the pond? Don't get the ideas that it waz our tightwad Tannin who kicked in firzt - Edward waz da man.

Stands to reason, Blake, that, all else being equal, a manufacturer is going to be more wiling to offer a long warranty on a drive that they expect to be more reliable. Or, putting it the other way about, a manufacturer that slashes its warranty can be expected to be concrned about its RMA rate...

You know, Coug, as a topic to discuss on a computer forum, mice are really, really boring. (Except when you just happen to have bought a new one yourself, of course.) And seeing as Tannin and I just happen to have splashed out $1AU150-odd on a Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman .... :wink...

Beautiful!

Mainly to increase my folding, but also because I had a cooling problem with my XP1900, I slipped in a 2400 the other week. (0.13 instead of 0.18u - i.e., cooler.) Alas, I got stupid and tried a Volcano 9, and in order to keep the temp reasonable without drowning the radio out, I needed to kill...

So I suppoze you guyz are starting to underztand what it feelz like to be mistaken for a chimpanzee now?

I was 7. Or possibly 5. I forget. That's the nice thing about being imaginary. You stay the zame age all the time. So I was 7 last year, and I'm going to be 7 again next year. Which is good, because I like being 7. (Or maybe 5.) (I get confuzed sometimez.)

Yup. Solid-state storage is boring.

It will probably go up tommorow, Mark, our time. It's Tuesday night here - well, Wednesday morning, technically, about 1:30AM - and it was only broadcast this morning. Er ... I mean Tuesday morning. The ABC is a truly astonishing organisation: they struggle with budget cuts almost every year...

Or just get rid on national anthemz completely. Useless damn things. Looked at as patriotic symbols, they are pointless. jingoistic, and divisive. Looked at as music, most of them are inferior to the average intimate hygene advert.

If it's all the zame to you, E_Dawg, I've seen Canadians play hockey and I'll stick to the old-fashioned method of settling differences: guns, knives, atom bombs, and sticks with nailz in. Much zafer.

The linky thing, Merc, not the Flazh. Take a look next time you are on a Flazh-riddled ... er .. I mean Flazh-equipped machine. Trust me, it's a good link.

For the firzt time in my entire life, I zee a good reazon for Flazh. :) Love it!

Well, yes, Coug. But it was still a damnfool way of doing it. Would have been much better to mount the chip itself on a socket, same as usual, and have the cache chips on horizontal "wings".

I have a catalogue from a parts supplier with a flexible USB fan in it - i.e., a USB connector, a bendy rod about 12 or 18 inches long, and an unshrouded three-blade fan about 1 or 2 inchs in diameter on the end, sufficiently powerful to cool ... er ... a mosquito or a 100MHz RAM chip.

Cost savings makes sense. But going to slot was a reverse cost saving. IIRC, Slot processors cost around $15 more than socket ones. BTW, the core damage thing is a non-issue now: it only really applies to P-IIIs and early Thunderbirds. The current ones are no problem at all, except for real...

Fool, you wouldn't care to comment on the Carolina Parakeet, then? Or possibly the Norweigan Blue?

OK, I'll go along with the info that it helps get rid of the heat, at least for now. So why did Intel and AMD both stop using them?

Thankz, mate. I tried it. When I turned the power on .... IT WENT PFFFHT!!!! End of a perfectly good Athlon 750 and my favourite old Gigabyte BX board. Lazt time I lizten to you, Blake. :(

Honold sez that the P4 and Athlon cores are about the same size, and that the lack of a heat spreader on the Athlon is a "bad omission". OK. I'll bite. Why? CPU's always used to have a heat spreader, until Intel's Coppermine. This was the first "naked" chip. AMD followed suit with the...

The heat and power myth: some actual max power numbers Older 0.18u parts: 54W: 0.18u Thunderbird 1000C (vastly faster than the early P-4) 75W: 0.18u Pentium 4 1.5 (Socket 423) (There were at least three variants of the 1.5 - the other two are 76W and 79W.) Now let's consider the next...

Several nice ones around in the bargain department at present - and I don't count Nforce II boards as "bargain" stuff. Not yet, anyway. ASUS A7N266. Nforce 1, all-in-one. Not convinced about the drivers yet, but at $AU102 ex, hard to go past. Gigabyte 7DXE. AMD 761. Not the last word in...

Don't be ridiculous, Blakewry. Coug, the reason Tannin didn't bother to cite detais and sources is precisely because this is a a "crowd composed of people with relatively high technical background". Nobody reading this page should need to be bored with all the usual details for this stuff, as...

Huh? Not even close. Oh, there are certain specialised things that the P-4 is very good at (I think Photoshop is one of them) but all round, they can't even match up model for model (e.g., 2200+ vs 2200), let alone $ for $ (e.g., 2400+ vs 2200). Oh - but you said on an Nforce 2. Now there you...

So, Tannin, how many Intel processors have you bought recently? Let's say ... oh ... in the last 12 months. (Err ... Two?) P-4s, yes. But what about Celerons? (Unh ... I think I bought a couple of 1100s not long ago. Not for myself, of course, I like things that go fast - i.e., Athlons.) And...

... or else dead. :o

I'd have to go away and look up how many GB there are in a TB first. Yesterday we sold our very first ever drive over 100GB. (A Seagate S-ATA 120.) No-one has showed the slightest interest in even a single 200GB drive yet. Next question please.

Sorry. The ASUS. If Kristi doesn't decide that they are OK after all, we'll try the Gigabyte one instead. Or an Albatron one. In the end, simple familiarity is such a huge bonus: we have worked on so many VIA boards over the years that I guess we tend to just get them right by reflex now. With...

Yeah. We've tried them. At first we thought "Wow! What a bargain!" But they haven't been entirely trouble-free by any means. We bought 5, sold all or most of them, bought another five the other day. Tannin likes them because they are cheap, have an AGP slot, are a decent brand, and have (so he's...

Tannin? Hmmm? You're not proud of being an Australian? No. Of course not. It's just the place I happened to be born. It could just as easily been Botswana. Or Belgium. Or anywhere. What is there to be proud of? I'm proud of being an orangutan. That's different. Why? Because ... well ...

Ahh we actually agree, Coug. I ordered a run-out special Thinkpad because it had a Celeron 1200 in it - i.e., my last chance to get a notebook without getting a power-sucking Pentium IV derivitive in it. OK, for me performance is not really an issue in a laptop—it's only going to be for when...

I didn't realise it waz actually a modified Pentium III till I read a little about it just now. That changes everything. Much more interesting. I cancelled the Thinkpad I had on order.

My Uncle Dweeb zent me zome of those in a big plastic envelope, but Tanninn zent them back marked "return to zender". He zays Uncle Dweeb's real name iz ... unh ... Uncle Dweeb.

You are in the wrong thread, Zlo. If you want to talk about cars in general or Holdenz in particular, you should go to the computers forum, and look for a thread called Ever wanted to know how a fan sounds before you buy? I should have thought that was obviouz.

Hoolie Doolie! Merc'z gone troppo! I never thought I'd zee the day when Mercutio recommended a Zhuttle board!

Who?

That'z lucky! Othewize I'd have a lot of trouble in the zecond word when I got to the bit between the "w" and the "e"!

NO-ONE has seen any credible evidence of ANY connection between Iraq and 911. NO-ONE. If anyone had, you could be very, very certain that Shrub and his lapdogs would be shouting it from the rooftops long and loud and often. That single fact (which isn't a fact because it doesn't exist) would be...

I hope the new name iz eazier to zpell. :(