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Laminar flow in a road car?! You are dreaming, JTR. It's hard enough to achieve in an airliner. You know what shape laminar flow vechicles are? Drive ... er ... I mean cycle ... down to the nearest river and have a gander at a rowing eight.

Or maybe that was George. I forget.

I thought Paul was dead?

The Soltek one works on my Albatron, and probably any VIA chipset board. (Or any chipset?) It reports a zero RAM voltage on this board, but who cares? I only want to know the temperatures. You can download it at http://www.soltek.com.tw/English/download/driver/hm-soltek.htm

I'm sure you are right, Coug. But I'm not allowed to zay zo becauze Tannin sayz I make too many mistakez in the mornings. :(

I have the CD already. Juzt haven't got around to installing it yet. Is it good?

I alwayz thought that accidental dizchargez were what you called them when you wazn't on the potty. But whatever. (I think what you really mean, Tea, is that the whole Nazification of the modern USA post 911 (not to mention Australia under that spinless and hysterical lickspittle Howard) is too...

Pradeep, that is just appalling. If that story is even hlf true, the US is well down the road to self destruction.

In the morning? It waz morning that made me mangle Coug's perfectly understandable words in the first place! Mornings are responzible for more human misery than any other seven lettter word in the lexicon. Think of how many people would ztill be alive if George W Bush and Saddam Hussein spent a...

It wazn't ambiguous grammar, Clippy, it was an ambiguous brain function. I'm getting positively human theze days.

Thankyou, Sterodude. Where would we be without Mozilla?

For a minute there, I got really confused! I thought you wrote: "Intel apparently delayed its new P4 chipsets for about two hours". Are we getting down to the point where we criticise companies for being two hours late with a new product launch now, I thought?!

Pradeep doezn't read. He juzt looks at the pictures.

As I think you may have intended to say, Merc, the key point here is not SF or SR but the community. We were like that over on SR in the old days too. If SF disappeared tommorow (Lord of Forests forbid), the community would find another place and continue on, much as we are now, or indeed, much...

Cause they is as sharp as marblez, natch.

Any solution for this? You are a mod, aren't you? Juzt block the IP. (Tea!) (Zorry. I waz only joking.) (Why didn't you suggest something useful, as as getting Pradeep to insert a soft space character in his sig? Er... there doesn't seem to be a soft space. Perhaps a thin space would do...

Well, excuse me. I do the sharp and witty posts around here!

Gigabyte boards are for people who want to bolt it in, plug in a CPU, add a little RAM, and forget about it for the next four years. The best way to overclock a Gigabyte board iz with a screwdriver and a different brand of motherboard. We love them. We sell heaps of them, don't ever do...

If you can get one, that iz. Over here they are already finished as a mainline, readily available product. Only small quantities of old stock. We switched to the 1800 as our entry-level chip a few weeks ago.

Howell sez: Thank you, Dozer, for bringing a sense of civility and balanced discussion back to the thread. I second that. And also: PS. Sorry that I got personal T. This tall poppie hurts when cut. Was that you? I confess to having semi-deliberately (in this thread) chosen to respond to posts...

My pleasure, Edward. Your friend should be OK with it, but (as always) if in doubt he can spend the little bit extra for (e.g.) Crucial or Legend. We will be happy to buy it again, but we like to have a little bit of premium stuff handy too, just in case.

Dozer sez: "I believe we can accomplish something historic here, or something catastrophic. After ... a brilliant military plan ... we will need an equally brilliant diplomatic plan to make things work. Time will tell..." Yup. Exactly. Or, as my old friend Basil Fawlty would say: Now for...

We have been using it for a little while, Edward. So far as I know, we have had no units go faulty (out of perhaps 30 to 50 pcs) and we have come to trust it. The only system I know of that has been at all difficult with it is this very one I'm writing on now - the XP 2400 with the Albatron...

I agree fully with this balanced, objective view, Dozer. Well posted. You go on to add: Here, I am not so sure. You may well be right. Or you may not. I think a great deal depends on the behaviour of the US over the next six months or so. The early signs are bad, but it's very early days yet...

In this morning's paper, I read what is quite possibly the best balanced and most sensible account of the Iraq Crisis that I have seen. It's worth quoting in full. Just so. For some reason - just plain optimisim, I guess, I still harbour a reasonable hope that in Iraq it will be different...

Hey! Piyono, my man! Good to see you. Who cares about the tedious details of history? Pass another banana and let's chat.

Arrrraggggh!

Grrrr! [b]that[/i] I cannot zpell. Where did I put that breadfruit tree? I'm going to bed!

And alzo, to prove tht I cannot zpell. I meant Freeborn. :oops:

Which only goez to prove that you are not a complete fool, Feeborn. :wink:

Eazy. If you can't work it out, zell it to Buck. :wink:

Oh! I didn't think of that. :o

http://www.privacyinternational.org/activities/stupidsecurity/inexplicable.html Read. Laugh. Weep.

Yes.

A positive outcome, Cliptin, will look like a reasonably stable government, with an economy that appears to be recovering (as far as may be expected), with a decently low level of violence and dissent (as measured by rebellions, Mafia style hits, and so on), and no evidence of government...

Nothing to do with sour grapes. I SAID wait and see and I MEANT wait and see. Your accusation is both moronic and offensive.

Fair dinkum, I'm surprised that you are persuaded by such shallow evidence, Clocker. I certainly hope you insist on a more rigourous standard of proof when you are enginering a suspension design. There have been lots of examples of the Iraquis displaying bitter resentment of the invaders too -...

Frank, along with a handful of others - Balding Ape, Future Shock, and Mickey are examples - are all that stands between SR and the barbarians. Better to have Frank over there holding up a candle for sense and civilisation, I think.

The Apacer would be OK. That's Acer's RAM division, IIRC. I've used it before. But I never like to skimp on RAM. If you buy good RAM you can get away with a lot of other shortcuts.

Doez Ztorage Forum have a birthday? If so, when is it? Anyone remember?

Nice idea, Doug. But I'm going to apply Rule 1: now that it ain't broke, I ain't going to fix it! Besidez, taking the lid off the A-Open full tower iz a pain. For the record, my W2K install is almost two years old now. I keep thinking about installing from scratch again, but then I bump up...

That particular webzite, Buck, iz an extraodinary testament to gross incompetence of the pigs-in-trough variety. I could think of zeveral people who could write a better looking, fazter-loading webzite without even leaving this room. You. Me. Handruin. Who else does HTML here? I don't know if...

http://news.com.com/2008-1082-995885.html Operon, 64-bit Athlonz, all zorts of interezting ztuff. Click. Read. Learn. Laugh. Cry. Buy popcorn. Or zomething.

Well, I got home after a hard day making Tannin rich at the office, and it crazhed again!!!. No little thing, a fair dinkum Blue Zcreen of Death. The culprit was NDIS again. No more mezzing about. I dizabled the 3Com crap and ztuck the Realtek back in. Problem haz gone away now. On a random...

Wow! That waz quick! I'll check those things tonight when Mr Zlavedriver Tannin letz me off from the daily grind, Blake. I'm running driverz from the motherboard site. I'll take a look at the 3Com site for updates then too. (Or maybe I should just stick the Realtek back in and be done with it?)

Good to see you around, Greg. Slip on over to the Pub & Brewary and tell us what you have been up to.

I seem to have a gift for stupid networking problems. A few weeks back my Soltek SL-75DRV5 died. So I replaced it with an Albatron - a KX400 8XV Pro - see: www.albatron.com.tw/product/KX400_8XV_Pro.asp Nice board. I like it. Nothing fancy, but effective and quite cheap. Along with the other...

If VIA have got half a brain, they will use the same sockets as AMD.

:o :lol: :D :wink:

In Oz, I'd go with: Gigabyte ... er .. 7 something or other. The one with the AMD 760 chipset. Costs about $AU130, say $US60. Add an Athlon XP 1800 (or similar) for maybe $US 50 to 60, and just use the standard fan you get in the box. They work fine if you don't want to overclock. 512MB of DDR...