42" HDTV recomendations?

[ddrueding]

If you were to buy a 42" HDTV this week, which one would it be and where would you get it? Which/how many inputs would you be looking for for a basic home theater?

My father has finally decided to replace their 27" Mitsubishi CRT with something decent.

 

[CougTek]

I'm no freaking TV peddler, but the Sharp LCD TVs I've seen looked better than most other brands.

Don't buy a plasma screen. Colors will fade quickly, especially the red.

 

[ddrueding]

This looks like the one to get based on my research so far.

SHARP Black 42" LCD HDTV w/ATSC Tuner Model LC42D72U
Full 1080P
2x HDMI
2000:1 contrast
4ms response time
$1800

 

[time]

Don't buy a plasma screen. Colors will fade quickly, especially the red.

Well, that sounds like bullshit to me. I'd be more worried about the LCD's fluro backlight changing color.

Most plasma makers today claim that their 2005 models have a life span of 60,000 hours before the panel fades to half-brightness. According to a 2000 Nielsen study, the average TV in a household is on for 7 hours, 40 minutes per day. Even if the real figure is closer to 30,000 hours, that works out to more than 10.5 years before the plasma reaches half-brightness--about what you'd expect from a direct-view CRT.

In short, plasma is a perfectly durable technology that's still a much better value than LCD in larger screen sizes.

42" seems too small to bother with 1080p. Is it a small room?

 

[timwhit]

I wouldn't buy an HDTV that isn't 1080p. Unless you plan on replacing your TV every 3-4 years, which most people don't do.

I think LCD's look like crap though, so I wouldn't buy anything.

 

[ddrueding]

It is a small room, viewing distance would be between 5 and 10 feet. They are coming from a 27" CRT, so it will be big to them.

I'm building an HTPC for them, so even if none of their sources were 1080P, I plan on using that resolution for the GUI and other features (games, picture viewing, etc)

 

[Mercutio]

Westinghouse HD sets are supposed to be a bargain at the moment, quality and budget-wise.

 

[timwhit]

My friend bought the Westinghouse 42" 1080p model that was on Woot a couple weeks ago. It looks pretty good, but doesn't include a tuner, which is probably not necessary if you have HD Cable or Direct TV.

 

[ddrueding]

I hope to some day route all the I/O through the HTPC running Vista Media Center, but my mother is a technophobe (relatively speaking, my father is a software developer).

To start, it will need to support the inputs that they have now (DirecTV, basic cable, non-HD DVD player, VCR) and the HTPC with the DVI -> HDMI adapter I have sitting here.

 

[e_dawg]

I like the Hitachi, Panasonic, and LG 42" plasmas myself for good price/performance. For LCD, the Sharp Acquos 1080p is nice, but it is usually more expensive than the aforementioned plasmas in that size.

IMO, 1080p for a 42" is not very useful, and its availability as a feature should not be a factor in your decision. Not only will you not be able to tell a difference at that size (which is the most important thing to consider), but 1080p content probably won't be affordable or widely available for 5-7 years. Even 720p/1080i content has yet to be affordable and widely available, and won't be for the next 3-4 years.

Remember, they have been talking about HDTV for years. It's taken them how long to get 720p to where it's widely available as an expensive option from your cable or dish provider? And even then, only half of the prime time content is in HD, with the rest of the day and most other channels being mainly SD.

As for DVD's, most DVD content is 480p. When will we have 1080p widely available on DVD? I'm not holding my breath. And if we continue to see single format players like the PS3, people are going to be reluctant to buy what few titles are available because of the uncertainty surrounding which format will win.

 

[Sol]

My experience with my 40" 720P lcd is that DVI->HDMI is terrible for the gui...
I'm not sure how it goes for video but 720P on a 768 native vertical resolution screen is physically painful. The analog connector is far, far superior. Whatever you get make sure you use the native resolution of the screen even if that isn't actually 1080P or even available via a digital connector.

Samsung have a new range of 1080P LCDs in the 40"+ range that would probably be worth a look.

 

[timwhit]

The 42" Westinghouse 1080p looks incredible hooked up to a computer with DVI at native resolution. Something to keep in mind.

 

[Mercutio]

1080p is a requirement for me only in that I don't think 1360x1050 or whatever 720p is, is enough screen resolution for a PC.

And I *do* have some 1080p content, so it's hardly worthless.

I'm thinking about trading my 60" DLP monster for something more like a 50" LCD. It'd be worth it to get the extra screen resolution.

 

[timwhit]

What do you have in 1080p? HDDVD? Blu-Ray?

I see that you can rent HDDVD and Blu-Ray from Netflix now. I don't have an account, but something to keep in mind, if you decide a 1080p television is not worth it.

 

[Mercutio]

I have an HDDVD player and a few movies.

I have also found some VERY nice HD Porn on PureTNA.com. I have HD versions of Vivid's Pirates and Digital Playground's Island Fever 3 (which is gorgeous in the same way the HD stuff from the Discovery channel is, plus the naked plastic womens).

Lots of goodies on HDbits.com, too.

 

[LOST6200]

Do we really need to veiw pornm in higher definitivision?

 

[Mercutio]

In this case, yes.
I can E-mail you screenshots if you like, L6k2. Ones that don't even have women in them, if need be.

 

[MaxBurn]

Man, some porn is not meant for hi-def...

I have a five year old Toshiba 52" TV that suits me fine now but I am lusting over the Aquos range of LCD's.

 

[Mercutio]

Sometimes it's awesome, too.
Obviously no one wants to watch "Backdoor Cheerleaders XVIII" in HD, but if you get an actual cinematographer and a director with some idea of how to actually shoot (e.g. Andrew Blake or Joone or Micheal Ninn), it's just as breathtaking as everything else in HD...

Hm. This is me knowing way too much about porn again.

 

[LOST6200]

Ones that don't even have women in them, if need be.

Wehat is taht supposed to mean???

 

[ddrueding]

Wehat is taht supposed to mean???

I suspect he was appealing to any potential sensabilities...kinda silly around here, I know...

 

[Mercutio]

I thought I'd mention that Newegg has Westinghouse 42" 720p sets fro $850 plus shipping.

Which strikes me as a really good deal.

 

[LiamC]

Will the people buying the LCD have a lot of HD content? Is their Free to air/cable/satellite content available in HD?

If the answer is no, then be wary of buying a HD set. A lot of sets will try to upscale Standard Definition (SD) to play full screen on the panel. The results vary from very good to truly aweful. I did the shop around in Feb. and most fell into the truly aweful category. Yes you can set up the screen to output at native, but this may irk some people, particularly if they have a 42" screen which only has a picture in 40% of the screen area—the alternative being a blocky/pixellated hash.

Do the purchasers have a DVD collection that they watch? Take some down to a store and get them played on the screen.

The DVD player an make a huge difference to the final output.

What outputs do the peripherals (DVD, HTPC, video) have? Composite output (yellow plug for video) looks aweful full screen on my Samsung 37" HD screen.

What is the source input that they watch the most? TV, DVD, HTPC etc.
Check your narrowed down choices with that as an input.

1080i/720p. I'll take 720p anyday, but it gets back to source. HD braocasting is in its infancy in Aus, and the camps are split there ways. One is 720p (ABC/SBS) as most of their source is European. Two of the commercial channels are 1080i and I'm hard pressed to pick 1080i from 720p. On still shots/slow moving I'd give the nod to 1080i. For action/fast moving I'd pick 720p. Guess what the 1080i pundits broadcast on their test channels in store? If you guessed slow panning "panoramic" scenes, you guessed right. Nary a fast moving picture to be scene (see/scene, geddit? I crack me up. Sigh, time to up the medication). The third player hasn't made up their mind and is only broadcasting in SD digital.

As an aside, I do like watching he V8 Supercars (think NASCAR). This recently swapped channels. The studio shots/interviews etc. all appear to be HD of some flavour. The in car/action shots are noticeably blocky, and I suspect the outside broadcast units aren't up to snuff–perhaps analogue that is being upscaled on the fly?

Go to wikipedia and read up on resolution/720p/1080i.

Finally, do they need, have HD receiver/tuner. If they already have a HD STB, then you can save a wad of cash by not buying a set with inbuilt HD tuner. The advantage is less clutter (box/cable etc).

HTH

 

[LiamC]

Oh yeah, a DVD I thought was particularly good at revealing limitations of the upscale engine is Stigmata, particularly in the menus and an ambulance scene early on–Frankie (Patricia Arquette) is whipped/flogged, giving her one of the stigmata, on a train, and is then raced to hospital. This is a particularly dark/rainy night and it "blocks up" really badly on a lot of HD screens as there is very low contrast between pixels.

 

[Pradeep]

The problem I find is that the ~18Mbit/sec max for an HD channel in the USA is insufficient for fast moving scenes. Lightning/disco scenes etc, they can breakup easily.

Not sure what specs the Aussie HD standard has, I'm assuming they went with what the Europeans chose?

Got to go to HD-DVD or Blu-Ray to avoid it.

 

[time]

Not sure what specs the Aussie HD standard has, I'm assuming they went with what the Europeans chose?

Yep. DVB-T with (I may very well be confused) a mix of 16-QAM and 64-QAM, i.e. up to 21 or 32Mbps respectively.

 

[udaman]

Skip to end of my post for actual on topic relevant info. (trying to break ddrueding’s unofficial longest post on SF rating )

Do we really need to veiw pornm in higher definitivision?

Oh, yes, yes....yes!

That's it, right there...more, more, harder, harder

Man, some porn is not meant for hi-def...

I have a five year old Toshiba 52" TV that suits me fine now but I am lusting over the Aquos range of LCD's.

Examples please . Hmm, jessica alba on a 108in Samsung LCD...2k 1080p is just not enough to capture her lusciousness---I want 8k, who needs pr0n?

Sometimes it's awesome, too.
Obviously no one wants to watch "Backdoor Cheerleaders XVIII" in HD, but if you get an actual cinematographer and a director with some idea of how to actually shoot (e.g. Andrew Blake or Joone or Micheal Ninn), it's just as breathtaking as everything else in HD...

Hm. This is me knowing way too much about porn again.

(so is ‘Pirates’ in HD any good Merc, you’ve seen this one?…”breathtaking”…umm, I want UHDV drool worthiness, tongue wagging on the floor excitement, so real you want to lick the screen damn it!)

Umm, I hate to tell you this Merc, but there is a whole world of pervs out there on the internet who'd love to watch BC18 in HD, just like all those people who watched “jackass- the movie”.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/22/business/porn.php In pornography, high definition could be a view too real


"The biggest problem is razor burn," said Stormy Daniels, an actress, writer and director. Daniels is also a skeptic. "I'm not 100 percent sure why anyone would want to see their porn in HD."

The technology's advocates counter that high definition, by making things clearer and crisper, lets viewers feel as close to the action as possible. "It puts you in the room," said the director known as Robby D"

What does Ms. Daniels mean by 'razor burn', lol?




"The images are so clear that Jane's breast implants, from an operation six years ago, can be seen bulging oddly on screen. "I'm having my breasts redone because of HD," she said...Price said. "People just want to see what's real." She is allowing them to do so, mostly. She had laser treatments to diminish tiny purple veins on her thighs that weren't visible to viewers before.

"You can see things you cannot see with the naked eye," said Robbie D. "You see skin blemishes; you see cottage cheese."

"But some cellulite is not necessarily a bad thing," he added. "It's kind of sexy."


Cellulite is kind of sexy??? ewww...see what I mean about BC15.




I take it Merc is already familiar with Cytherea's (do a search for free video shorts of Cytherea & squirting, lol, and you'll see what I mean) G-spot 'talents' which could so well be depicted in HD...D'oh. Not to mention how lovely a drunken Lindsay Lohan would look in HD, or another 'talented' actress like Kate Beckinsale, hmmm, would be fun milking that one ...she's so awesome, :crap:. http://hollywood.outsidethebeltway.com/2006/06/kate-beckinsale-squirts-breast-milk-video-photos/

For Merc. all this week the local SF Valley newspaper is running a 6 part series on the So. Cal. 'pr0n beltway'?

http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/editorial/inter/x_valley/xxx_valley_1.html

Sharp's 4k x 2k 64-inch ultra high res monitor
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/15/sharps-4k-x-2k-64-inch-ultra-high-res-monitor/
Actually, I can't wait for 4k res super HD, and then maybe before we all die, 32MP 8k res Ultra HD. See, there is a need for multi-terabyte drives after all ;-), as UHD in uncompressed form (for the initial capture at least) needs ~3GB/s data rate, which nothing less than a high-end server could handle at present (I guess 4Gb/s FC in multiport/channel configuration?).

http://www.dailytech.com/NHK+Demonstrates+Ultra+HD+Signal+16+Times+Better+Than+HDTV/article7466.htm

"Super Hi-Vision cameras, recorders, encoders and projectors are under development and the introduction of a new Ultra HD standard is planned for 2009. NHK estimates that satellite transmission tests will begin in 2011, and by 2020, Ultra HD will be ready for broadcast to households."

. Yeah, so right now, we have limited HD of questionable quality in 720p, 1080i, or 1080p that suffers from bandwidth limitations or poor quality compression codec's, such that we get artifacts & motion problems, not only from the limitations of the view screen tech, but source/players of such data. 4k projection in very limited # of movie theaters is the best of HD at the moment. Chi-Meo had early this year, 'announced' a 56in 4k LCD, which would need 2 sets of cables and 2 GPU cards at present to drive it just like the recently out of production 22in 4k IBM monitors (a single Matrox 256MB GPU card was/still being made to drive these 4k 22in monitors-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WQUXGA), but it's like so many SSD's MIA. And for anyone who claims 1080p is too much for any 42in screen or smaller, why do medical images need 4k 22in screens then....because there's a higher level of detail; I have yet to see a 1080p 2k res. TV/monitor where there wasn't some kind of lack of sharpness/detail, motion artifact/jagged lines, etc, that higher data rates/lower compression as well as higher resolution would not improve upon, current HD consumer level tech is to my mind quite poor quality, really more like 'medium' resolution, not close to 'high-definition' ...kind of like comparing a low quality image from a compact digicam with that of a Hasselblad 33MP digital image.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHDV

"Once stabilizing ferroelectric materials is accomplished it would be able to store 1024 hours of uncompressed UHDV and 24,064 hours of H.264/AVC/VC-1 compressed UHDV"

There you go Merc, just wait a decade or so and you'll be able to store all the UHDV pr0n to your heart's content.

http://www.pr.com/press-release/40885
"Forza Silicon Announces High Definition CMOS Imaging Technology
Company’s Technology Adopted by Japan Broadcasting Company NHK in HDTV Trials"

http://www.kensei-news.com/product_news/publish/technology/article_43633.shtml

" Ultra HD broadcasting consumes a tremendous amount of bandwidth - 18 minutes of uncompressed footage consumes 3.5 terabytes of data and one minute of uncompressed footage consumes 194 gigabytes. The use of ATEME’s MPEG-4 AVC compression technology dramatically reduces the bandwidth requirements while maintaining the best quality."

According to www.HDforindies.com, the Red One 4k camcorder has a proprietary 4k compression for recording @~27MB/s (a data rate which would work for current HD-DVD/Blu-Ray if they could hold enough ...which is why Sony's BR (listening Merc?) format is better because it will scale to 7 layer 200GB discs).


http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel_chart.asp

Red camcorder resolution
http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?title=Red+One+(4K)&width=4520&height=2540

4k res. computer monitor
http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?title=WQUXGA+(Widescreen)&width=3840&height=2400

8k res. WHUXGA (but not 60fps as in the NHK version UHDV)
http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?title=WHUXGA+(Widescreen)&width=7680&height=4800

DCI (Digital Cinema Initiative, standards body for theatre projection) 4k res.
http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?title=DCI+Digital+Cinema+4K&width=4096&height=2160

HD pr0n so far, had been shot with really low-end cheap palmcorder camcorders (don't know about the supposed, read the link above, $1mil 'Pirates' production costs, did they rent a true 2k res. procamcorder and use quality lens?) like JVC's 1st single chip CMOS 720p camcorder that cost just $3,000. And just this last year we had a slightly better, pixel interpolated 1080i Panasonic palmcorder 200HGX $5k. But new this year are lower cost 2k pro-level & the 'holy grail' Red 4k camcorder @$30k

http://www.storagesearch.com/news2007-march4.html

Since SED & OLED are MIA for the near term, I'd wait for LED backlit LCD screens. I hate projection TV's even if they cost less, as they have terribly poor uniformity in screen lighting, as well as poor angle of viewing, worse than plasma or lcd. Saw Beyoncé performing onstage on a RPTV, think it was around 72in, wow, what a butt, baby’s got back, sometimes a small screen is better .

3rd tier LCD can be a good deal, if you are willing to sacrifice some maximum performance, as many of them are not the greatest. Actually there are way too many poor quality LCD's from both top tier and lower tier LCD manufacturers, than there are what I would call acceptable.

Philips has announced they will be shipping their 'Ambilight LED backlit LCD's (though MSRP is quite the top of the line type at present, prices to quickly fall once other’s like Sharp/Samsung announce there competing products), and by next year you'd expect to see LED backlit (again, slightly lower overall performance) at near current old tech LCD pricing. http://www.electronichouse.com/arti...ersary_with_1080p_leds_and_larger_screen/C157
"The new 42-, 47- and 52-inch Ambilight sets have gotten a bump in refresh rate to 120 Hz for better motion reproduction."


I haven't seen this high-end Panasonic (note that 'Hdguru' and his site/blog is kind of thought of as a shill on this forum link by many...do a search) 50in plasma in the Best Buy 'Magnolia' section of my local BB's yet, but then BB's are always poorly setup to the point of being almost useless as a guide (same could be said for CostCo or Fry's, except that at CC they have all of the screens under bright warehouse lighting which can give you a better ideal of how some perform in less than ideal, super dark rooms that other places display them in). The thing with CostCo, is that you can return the screen and get a newer model when they come out, if you don't like the one your purchase now (90day money back guarantee, though I've never tried this, YMMV). The Sony LCD's I've seen are better at rendering colors accurately (not over saturated, even when trying to adjust with manual controls), and seem to have greater capability to get shadow/highlights/tonal gradations in comparison to Sharp, but that's a personal preference....look before you buy.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=840923

The problem I find is that the ~18Mbit/sec max for an HD channel in the USA is insufficient for fast moving scenes. Lightning/disco scenes etc, they can breakup easily.

Not sure what specs the Aussie HD standard has, I'm assuming they went with what the Europeans chose?

Got to go to HD-DVD or Blu-Ray to avoid it.

Current HD optical disks, given a poor quality players/playback system, can exhibit the same flaws; you won't necessarily avoid it.
Terrestrial broadcast HD in NA uses 8VSB modulation w/~19Mbps rate. Cable uses a different modulation scheme. These can account for motion, scene 'breakup' but then any number of factors can contribute to that along the supply chain, quality/codec of source recording camera, transmission source, distribution systems, playback system, screen (motion artifacts can be result of slow pixel, res. up/down conversion circuitry, response in some screens),. OTA transmissions are definitely subject to signal strength variations/inteference unless you're across the street from the transmitter tower. At on Best Buy, their 50+ screens running off of a single line amp, just simply froze after the picture started to have pixel blocking breakup/slow down in the higher motion parts of an image.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8VSB

Well, that sounds like bullshit to me. I'd be more worried about the LCD's fluro backlight changing color.



42" seems too small to bother with 1080p. Is it a small room?

If 22in is not too small for medical resolution 4k screens, 42in surely isn't. Give me a 8k res screen for my 17in laptop please.

Get an LED backlit LCD if you're worried about longer term fluoro color changes.

 

[Mercutio]

uda,

How the fuck do you expect anyone to read your posts?

I try. I really do. You're the only guy I know who can make three different and unrelated nouns the subject of a single sentence.

It's like you just took a big, steaming dump at the end of this thread.

Put down the crackpipe and try composing sentences that can be arranged into logical paragraphs that develop or support a single coherent idea. It's not too much to ask, man.

 

[mubs]

Why do you even bother, Merc?

 

[timwhit]

I read the first part but my head started spinning. Then I vomited and all was fine after that.

 

[Santilli]

Anyone tried the this? Panasonic player upconverter to 1080?
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/82-103-286-08.jpg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882103286

 

[Mercutio]

Greg, upconverted DVDs are just DVDs with slightly fewer blocky artifacts on HD displays. Don't expect any miracles. In fact, don't particularly expect to notice any differences at all.

 

[Stereodude]

Anyone tried the this? Panasonic player upconverter to 1080?
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/82-103-286-08.jpg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882103286

I wouldn't get that upconverting DVD player. I would recommend the various Oppo players. http://www.oppodigital.com/ Also note that you can only get "upconversion" via the HDMI output, not any of the analog outputs.

Depending on the scalar and video processing in your TV an upconverting DVD player may or may not make a big difference.

 

[Santilli]

Thanks

My really old tv just had the portable Colby DVD player pretty much die on it, and, I bought a newegg.com Liteon combo. Didn't work with the old TV. Problem with the old style video out, from the Liteon unit. S video out worked fine, but, only my Panasonic in the living room has that. So, I ended up with no solution for the SO's dead player, and, by chance, the Toshiba DVD player, about 10 years old, in the living room died while the Liteon was shipping.

So, plan is something like buy a DVD player, like that Panasonic, that can use HDMI, and, later, a HDMI compatible TV.

The other possibility is to use a XBOX 3 package, for 600 bucks, from blockbuster, that would give me the HDMI, Xbox, cable, 6 bluray disks, and a blue ray capable player.

Suggestions?
The XBOX setup looks pretty expensive, but, not for what they package it with, worth near 1100 bucks.

The other problem is buying a Blueray capable, HDMI capable TV, and, looking through Costco for one, or newegg.

We don't do cable TV, and, have a LOT of regular DVD's around. Our TV's are used ONLY for DVD play.

What's the best way to setup for quality DVD play, at this point?

 

[Fushigi]

DVD players are such a low-margin commodity at this point I'm not sure what I'd recommend as a standalone player. I put one of these on my exercise bike to watch DVDs while riding but it also comes with full AV cables (composite/S-Video), remote, and car adapter. Looks like they've revised the model somewhat from when I bought mine but then it's been a couple of years and the player still works like new. No HDMI but being portable is nice and frankly, I'd just make the acquisition of an HDMI player part of the HD TV purchase; by then you can probably get a player, either BD or HD, for both regular & hi-def discs.

Others have noted the XBox, as with all console game systems, have cooling fans so they aren't silent.

 

[Pradeep]

When you say xbox 3 I assume you mean a PS3. The xbox 360 doesn't do any HD optical video, unless you buy a $189 dollar addon that will let you playback hd dvds (a dying format). The 360 also sounds like a small vacuum cleaner.

The PS3 has a built-in bluray drive, wifi, HDMI, gigabit ethernet, hard drive (which you can replace with any 2.5" SATA drive). It will also do a nice job upconverting your regular DVDs to "1080p", of course no comparison to a blu-ray disc but not bad. And it is pretty much silent. I wouldn't buy a bundle from blockbuster tho. The 40GB version retails for $399 everywhere, I'm sure you can get it at Costco. There's currently a mail-in rebate for 5 free bluray discs. All you would need is an HDMI cable from monoprice for around $10. The PS3 ships with a composite video cable (yellow RCA) and analog audio output (red and white RCA). It also has a toslink optical output to connect to a surround receiver if you have one. To get the ultimate connectivity you would use HDMI to connect to a receiver so you get multichannel lossless audio, and then HDMI from receiver to display for video. But it's flexible enough to do what you want whilst you are in the process of upgrading your TV.

The fact that it plays awesome games is also a nice plus.

 

[SYROB]

Would wait for these...

Sharp will introduce into the Japanese market 20 new AQUOS models in three series with screen sizes ranging from 20V to 52V inches by March 1 of this year.

All AQUOS models in the new X Series, E Series and D Series feature LCD panels manufactured at the Kameyama Plant. These panels are based on Sharp's proprietary Advanced Super View LCD that makes viewing easy even in bright locations. All models also support AQUOS Familink that enables easy control of connected audio/video equipment, and deliver high energy efficiency.

New X Series AQUOS LCD TVs

Sharp will introduce three models in the new AQUOS X Series of LCD TVs. The 46V, 42V and 37V-inch TVs can accommodate the needs of consumers who want to mount a flat-panel TV on the wall to take full advantage of its thin (3.44 cm) profile.....

Plus, the X Series adopts a discrete component configuration that separates the display section from the tuner section. Users can connect the display section via a single cable. Housing the tuner as a separate component also eliminates the time and effort involved in turning the back of the display section to make connections with the antenna cable or peripheral equipment.

Major features of the new X series include a contrast of 15,000:1, a brightness of 450 cd/m2 and 12-bit BDE color value rendering. All full-HD models feature double-speed (120-Hz frame rate conversion) full-HD LCD technology for fast-motion image processing. A thin-profile 3-way 8-speaker system and 1-Bit digital amplifier are also included in the new models......


SYROB

 

[Stereodude]

And they'll still have vertical banding.

 

[Santilli]

Pradeep:
Yes, it is the PS3. My Yamaha amp doesn't have a HDMI connector. It does appear to have an optical cable input/output, so that might work. Have to check around a bit...

 

[Mercutio]

That's not anything close to the same thing.