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CougTek · Feb 2, 2003

blakerwry said:
I'm sure the pc2700 helped the athlon... I bet if the celery had the pc2700 and the Athlon had the 2100 things would be equal... but it just shows you how slow the northwood core still is compared to the palomino(1.47gHz) clock for clock.

Memory speed has no effect on F@h performances. A Duron even performs on par with a similarly clocked Thunderbird, just like your Celeron fares just as poorly as a 2.0GHz Pentium 4 Northwood would. The memory footprint of the F@hcore is very small, so it fits within the cache easily. Wheter you use PC2100, PC2700 or even PC100 makes little to no difference.

SETI@home improves has memory bandwidth increase, but not F@h. That's why we tend to prefer Athlon to anything from Intel for this stuff.

Jake the Dog · Feb 2, 2003

wow, you've really picked up the pace JoJo! find a few spare machines did you?

my pace is slowly going to drop as I start having a largish test project run on many of the machines I've got folding for me.

blakerwry · Feb 3, 2003

CougTek said:
blakerwry said:

I'm sure the pc2700 helped the athlon... I bet if the celery had the pc2700 and the Athlon had the 2100 things would be equal... but it just shows you how slow the northwood core still is compared to the palomino(1.47gHz) clock for clock.

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Memory speed has no effect on F@h performances. A Duron even performs on par with a similarly clocked Thunderbird, just like your Celeron fares just as poorly as a 2.0GHz Pentium 4 Northwood would. The memory footprint of the F@hcore is very small, so it fits within the cache easily. Wheter you use PC2100, PC2700 or even PC100 makes little to no difference.

SETI@home improves has memory bandwidth increase, but not F@h. That's why we tend to prefer Athlon to anything from Intel for this stuff.

Hmm... i should benchmark my duron 1.3..

i dont get your explanation of durin vs t-bred... they are moth capable of utilizing the same memory... my duron 1.3 runs ECC PC2100...

NRG = mc² · Feb 3, 2003

Coug means that F@H doesn't rely on memory bandwidth much if at all since the program is small enough to reside in cache. Therefore an Athlon or Duron are identical performers as the only thing that differentiates them is cache size and FSB.

The JoJo · Feb 3, 2003

I'm building a few computers for some friends, and they are in the "burnin" phase

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blakerwry · Feb 3, 2003

next time i get a 623 protein I'll lower my mem speed(keeping my CPU/FSB speed constant) and see what happens.

blakerwry · Feb 3, 2003

blah, i found an error in my calculations... i had been looking in the log and recording what time, for example, frame 150 was completed and then recording what time frame 100 was completed and finding the difference... that gives me 51 frames.. instead of 50... so my data is slightly off...

I'm going to go through and see if I cant correct the problem.. and maybe go by 10 frame blocks as it seems times are fairly consistant between frames.

Groltz · Feb 3, 2003

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Should anyone desire to benchmark their folding machine with the traditional "proteinA" work unit, it can be downloaded here.
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P5-133XL · Feb 4, 2003

The potential cause of all non-SF people

The potential cause of all non-SF people in our F@H team. Specificly, there was a bug in a previous client that if the team was unknown then the team number was left unitialized and assigned, at random, to another team.

Folding@home Forum = Unknown users

Mercutio · Feb 4, 2003

Is there a single .EXE anywhere to install F@H as a service out there yet?

Merc is much, much too lazy to do it by hand 60-odd times...

timwhit · Feb 4, 2003

Mercutio said:
Is there a single .EXE anywhere to install F@H as a service out there yet?

Merc is much, much too lazy to do it by hand 60-odd times...

Write a script. This really wouldn't be that hard.

Groltz · Feb 4, 2003

Mercutio said:
Is there a single .EXE anywhere to install F@H as a service out there yet?

Merc is much, much too lazy to do it by hand 60-odd times...

Could this be of any help?

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Mercutio · Feb 5, 2003

I work with a bunch of non-technical people, who teach others how to use computers, timwhit. Their students think those other trainers are gods among men, for being able to, say, correctly identify the CD-ROM drive, or forward a message in outlook. So their students ask questions about complex topics: "The firewall on my home PC..." Not wanting to appear stupid, SOME of those trainers will attempt to answer those questions, (the good ones just come and ask me) or, gods help me, demonstrate something in class that isn't on their outline.

The invariable next step in this sequence is that I get called, sometimes from another classroom where I myself am teaching, to fix something that is broken in a truly hideous fashion.

My current favorite is the trainer who managed to get InCD to format a CD-R disc. I'm not kidding. 650MB of UDF-formatted blank CD-R.

The closest approximation I can come to this experience is trying to clean your house while six very bored and energetic toddlers run around and pile everything they can reach in the middle of the floor.

For some odd reason I have very, very litle free time at work.

timwhit · Feb 5, 2003

Merc, Do you want me to write the batch file for you?

Mercutio · Feb 5, 2003

Naw, I'll get around to it sooner or later. I was just venting. Bad day. Don't ask.

I actually build (MSI/MST) application install scripts pretty regularly. We have 'em for 3 different versions of office and quickbooks and photoshop and a couple of other things that get taught (and broken) regularly. The automated one I tried for F@H service didn't work, though, which is why I asked y'all who keep up with it if there's something better out there.

It shouldn't be that big a deal to set up F@H on my wininstall workstation. I just haven't done it yet.

Dozer · Feb 5, 2003

blakewry said:
The Folding@home log file reading is a custom job by myself... im sure others have made their own scripts as well...

here's the code:
Code:

+---------
| FOLDING \
+-----------------------------------+
| Current Protein: |
| <NAME=FILEDATA FORMAT="C:\Program Files\Folding@home\unitinfo.txt,3"><PIXELSTART=252>|
| <NAME=FILEDATA FORMAT="C:\Program Files\Folding@home\unitinfo.txt,4"><PIXELSTART=252>|
| <NAME=FILEDATA FORMAT="C:\Program Files\Folding@home\unitinfo.txt,5"><PIXELSTART=252>|
+-----------------------------------+

This also works well across my network to keep track of what my linux folding machine is doing:

Code:

| FOLDING  \ 
+-----------------------------------+ 
| Current Protein:                  | 
| <NAME=FILEDATA FORMAT="\\mandrake\local\samba-public\folding\unitinfo.txt,3"><PIXELSTART=252>| 
| <NAME=FILEDATA FORMAT="\\mandrake\local\samba-public\folding\unitinfo.txt,4"><PIXELSTART=252>| 
| <NAME=FILEDATA FORMAT="\\mandrake\local\samba-public\folding\unitinfo.txt,5"><PIXELSTART=252>| 
+-----------------------------------+

Note I had to change the line # for the progress indicator because my linux folding unitinfo file includes a project due date line, which I didn't want to display.

BTW, thanks blake for this nifty prog.

Handruin · Feb 5, 2003

I ran the program for a day, but I didn't like that it used 1-2% of CPU time rather often. I'd rather see the time spent folding over displaying the percent completion of my work unit.

CougTek · Feb 7, 2003

Look at our team graph at statsman. Look at it carefully. We are now 32nd overall. This is the highest ranking we've ever been...and this is the highest ranking we'll ever be. Our team is now at his apogee. Enjoy it while it last (it will be short).

Be proud of what we've done.

Bartender · Feb 9, 2003

Handruin is proving to be one hard folder to pass. What type of systems do you have crunching away Handy?

Handruin · Feb 9, 2003

Bartender said:
Handruin is proving to be one hard folder to pass. What type of systems do you have crunching away Handy?

2x PIII @ 1GHz/256MB ram | W2K pro running 24x7
1x AMD @ 1.2GHz/768 MB ram | XP pro running 24x7

Bartender · Feb 10, 2003

That's it? Do you have anything helping out part-time? I thought you had a quad-CPU system?

Handruin · Feb 10, 2003

Bartender said:
That's it? Do you have anything helping out part-time? I thought you had a quad-CPU system?

That's all I have right now. I've been planning to add one more, but other purchases are more important at the moment. The quad system is not available any longer, so my results have dropped.

Bartender · Feb 10, 2003

Handy, I know someone who has good pricing on computer components!

Oh, sorry, wrong state . . . . son of a . . . , Buck! You need to expand your business to accept out of state sales! It has worked well for me. Not only can I serve drinks to anyone in any state of our Union, but I can serve to anyone, anywhere in the world. (Special license).

Handruin · Feb 10, 2003

Bartender said:
Handy, I know someone who has good pricing on computer components! Oh, sorry, wrong state . . . . son of a . . . , Buck! You need to expand your business to accept out of state sales! It has worked well for me. Not only can I serve drinks to anyone in any state of our Union, but I can serve to anyone, anywhere in the world. (Special license).

So why don't you expand? Hook up your fellow SF friends with PC components...and you take home a fair profit.

Buck · Feb 10, 2003

You're gonna make me go and deal with government officials at the BOE? Gads, they're the worst - especially the lady at the front window! Soon, soon, I'll get the blasted thing changed.

Bartender · Feb 10, 2003

You know Buck, you're a bit narky . . . you over weight bludger! Just get off your bum and get it done!

Buck · Feb 10, 2003

Boofhead!

Handruin · Feb 10, 2003

Buck said:
You're gonna make me go and deal with government officials at the BOE? Gads, they're the worst - especially the lady at the front window! Soon, soon, I'll get the blasted thing changed.

California State Board of Equalization? Is it just a tax thing? Setup one of those newegg style web-based e-commerce sites for us Buck! Come on, you know you want to.

Bartender · Feb 10, 2003

Dill! No more drinks for you.

Buck · Feb 10, 2003

Handruin said:
Buck said:

You're gonna make me go and deal with government officials at the BOE? Gads, they're the worst - especially the lady at the front window! Soon, soon, I'll get the blasted thing changed.

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California State Board of Equalization? Is it just a tax thing? Setup one of those newegg style web-based e-commerce sites for us Buck! Come on, you know you want to.

Finally, some sensible speaks. Great idea Handy, I just need the time (and website know-how).

Mercutio · Feb 10, 2003

If Buck can compete with Newegg's prices, I'll even buy from him exclusively.

Handruin · Feb 10, 2003

Here ya go Buck, a store for you.

I'll setup a demo if you want to play with it?

Handruin · Feb 10, 2003

Nevermind...looks like they want $99 for the shopping cart. :-?

Mercutio · Feb 10, 2003

Yes, but perhaps Mr. Cahill's could re-sell Buck a site that includes a shopping cart. Already got php and mySQL...
I looked at a shopping cart app once. It was written in perl. About 30 lines of the most bastardized code I'd ever seen. I've seen line noise less random.

Buck · Feb 10, 2003

Ah, the temptation!

blakerwry · Feb 10, 2003

sorry guys.. i wasn't paying attention and my linux server(duron1.3) hasn't been folding all week... Fortunately, I corrected the problem post-haste!

To the top I go!!!

Mercutio · Feb 10, 2003

Groltz said:
Mercutio said:

Is there a single .EXE anywhere to install F@H as a service out there yet?

Merc is much, much too lazy to do it by hand 60-odd times...

Click to expand...

Could this be of any help?

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Hm. Installed this thing on the couple of new builds I did last night, rebooted both of them, and wandered off to bed.
Wake up to find that neither of them folded a damn thing. CPU utilization for FAHConsole is supposed to be a number higher that "00" on an idle machine, right?

Cliptin · Feb 10, 2003

Mercutio said:
Groltz said:

Mercutio said:

Is there a single .EXE anywhere to install F@H as a service out there yet?

Merc is much, much too lazy to do it by hand 60-odd times...

Click to expand...

Could this be of any help?

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Click to expand...

Hm. Installed this thing on the couple of new builds I did last night, rebooted both of them, and wandered off to bed.
Wake up to find that neither of them folded a damn thing. CPU utilization for FAHConsole is supposed to be a number higher that "00" on an idle machine, right?

Well, which install did you do: quick, custom, automated or existing. It sounds like F@H is waiting for you to input you name, team number, etc.

Mercutio · Feb 10, 2003

Custom, Mercutio, 10047, and both machines downloaded 244kb of something last night, which seems like it's probably a WU.

Groltz · Feb 10, 2003

How about these two lines in the client.cfg?

Code:

[core]
priority=96
cpuusage=100

Were they set differently?

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