Genome@Home

[NRG = mc²]

woohoo 1000 units :mrgrn:

 

[Prof.Wizard]

BTW, is it just me or the Genome@home client give us bigger genes to calculate these days? Both my systems running at home are crunching 97 positions genes right now.

LOL, what is a 97-position gene? :-?

 

[James]

LOL, what is a 97-position gene? :-?

Obviously one that has been studying the Karma Sutra.

 

[CougTek]

That's a gene with 97 positions to filter. These aren't my terms, that's how the client call them. Once they are calculate, they call the positions residues. Check the command line windows of the G@h client and this page for instance.

 

[Prof.Wizard]

Obviously one that has been studying the Karma Sutra.

Kama Sutra. :wink:

 

[Prof.Wizard]

These aren't my terms, that's how the client call them.

Yeah, I know. These "positions" somehow stand for the complexity of the genome sequence to decode (as many of you have already noticed how 90-position genes take much more time than 70-position ones)...

I just wanted to make sure that (AFAIK) positions in a gene isn't a term of the biological sciences.

 

[Pradeep]

Don't worry, the stats are weighted so that you get more credit for a "bigger" gene.

 

[Cliptin]

These aren't my terms, that's how the client call them.

Yeah, I know. These "positions" somehow stand for the complexity of the genome sequence to decode (as many of you have already noticed how 90-position genes take much more time than 70-position ones)...

I just wanted to make sure that (AFAIK) positions in a gene isn't a term of the biological sciences.

My interpretation has assumed the number of positions to be the length of the gene sequence. In other words, you get a gene of 46/82/99 positions and you compute 30 variations of those positions. Because a particular computer only computes 30 variations (excluding -nonet) that same gene must be sent to many more people than a smaller gene.

 

[CougTek]

StorageForum_net Genome@home team has entered the top-100 teams in term of total crunched units.

Congratulations guys. Still only 99 to go before we meat team Ars Technica face to face ;-)

 

[Buck]

Yes, good work on our part. However, we do have big battles ahead of us. I need a nice order for 20 systems that I can all hook up for 24 hours and crunch genome during that time to . . . ahem . . . test the systems.

 

[Bartender]

Big battles? What are you talking about Buck? You haven't crunched a gene to save your life. Our number one man Handruin should be thanked, although I saw that Coug has filtered a protein with 11 genes - good job Coug.

 

[Cliptin]

I was able to find teams that we will have trouble with before we get to 50.
Among them Hogville & Docteur PC.

Check out ARS's SETI recruiting drive. It's actually kind of funny.
http://www.teamlambchop.com/

 

[CougTek]

I saw that Coug has filtered a protein with 11 genes - good job Coug.

Where and how did you saw that?

 

[Buck]

I saw that Coug has filtered a protein with 11 genes - good job Coug.

Where and how did you saw that?

I saw that information here: http://gah.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage.pl?q=CougTek

Protein Designed:
HIV CAPSID C-TERMINAL DOMAIN 11 genes

 

[Cliptin]

Handruin is doing some mighty fine research if I do say so.

TYPE III ANTIFREEZE PROTEIN ISOFORM HPLC 12

BOVINE PANCREATIC TRYPSIN INHIBITOR (/BPTI$) MUTANT

 

[CougTek]

I thought this only meant that I calculated 11 times the same gene, not that the protein had 11 genes.

 

[Buck]

I thought this only meant that I calculated 11 times the same gene, not that the protein had 11 genes.

You could be right Coug, what I said was just my own logical assumption. HAH! Got that one wrong.

 

[Cliptin]

I'm commin' for ya NRG.

Your next JoJo.

muhaahaha.

 

[Prof.Wizard]

My interpretation has assumed the number of positions to be the length of the gene sequence. In other words, you get a gene of 46/82/99 positions and you compute 30 variations of those positions.

Variations of positions? Changing the sequence of the code changes the gene itself, Cliptin.

(Mutations with dire effects on an organism can even happen by changing only one of the nitrogenous bases of the gene in question, imagine if you swap whole codon sequences...)

 

[Cliptin]

Blah blah blah, stuff about genes.

:bow: :monky:
When you gonna climb out of the team basement PeeWee?
:wink: ______________________________________ :stpd:

 

[Prof.Wizard]

When I'll stop being SR's UD Team Captain...

 

[NRG = mc²]

Dream on, Cliptin!

OK, time to get off my chair and tell the others in the house to install Genome!

You think you can hack it?

XP1800@1667
P3-733
Duron 1000@1150
Celeron 1.2@1.46

I could always install it on the other machines (the owners of which cant be bothered to run it), celeron 1.2 and katmai p3-550.

Don't count on passing me any time soon :wink:

 

[Clocker]

All talk no action.

 

[Buck]

All talk no action.

:lol:

 

[Clocker]

:wink:

 

[CougTek]

I was able to find teams that we will have trouble with before we get to 50.
Among them Hogville & Docteur PC.

I'm much more worried about team Gamma than I am from the two above. The reason? We shave more than 2000 units in the advance team Hogville and DocPC had on us during the last week and a half, but we lost about 1000 units from our lead over team Gamma (they are currently around 26000). Eventually, we will pass Hogville and Docteur PC, but if we don't add another 700-800 units to our weekly production, Gamma will pass us too.

The next team that crunches faster than us up the ranking is BulgariaNetwork (they are currently 59th). Until we reach the ~50th spot, I'm only worry about team Gamma.

 

[Buck]

So how can we establish more crunch power? I have four full-time systems dedicated to this right now, perhaps a fifth in a week. Everything else is just sporatic when I assemble systems. Plus I can't afford more systems. From a business standpoint, I'd love to sell all of my systems and end up with none, then I'd be able to build new ones for me (yes me, not "me", "I", or "myself", just plain old me). Although, I wouldn't mind selling some system to I, me, or myself. Hah! That sounds strange... :roll:

<Buck goes back to his cup of tea>

 

[The JoJo]

Your next JoJo.

muhaahaha.

Dream on!

Good work people! I'm sure you Pros can find a few more computers to work for us?

 

[CougTek]

I don' think the solution is to increase the crunching power of the leading members of our team. I cannot go faster, you either and Kevin & Doug are already contributing a lot. We would need at least one additional regular contributor. But it doesn't urge as we still have ~10000 units advance over Gamma. Let's say that we have around 5 or 6 weeks to recruit someone else with CPU cycles to burn.

Or maybe until I find some loose cash to change the dead motherboard or CPU that cause one of my system to sleep in a corner since a few months (but one single-processor system -even a top notch one- is only able to do 400-500 units/week, not 800).

The recent addition of Tea and Dozer was very helpful, just as the comeback of NRG=MC² and the arrival of Cliptin not long before.

 

[NRG = mc²]

All talk no action.

hey hey hey! OK, time to get a move on. The others in my house cant be bothered to run Genome so its just my two machines, P3-733 and XP.

I have to start "grilling" some friends now. Brwmogazos stopped from what it seems, another slacker over there :evil:

 

[Cliptin]

All talk no action.

hey hey hey! OK, time to get a move on. The others in my house cant be bothered to run Genome so its just my two machines, P3-733 and XP.

I have to start "grilling" some friends now. Brwmogazos stopped from what it seems, another slacker over there :evil:

NRG, The glove is thrown, the die is cast, and these boots were made for walkin'. 8)

 

[Tannin]

There is an XP 1700 of mine plus assorted K6-IIIs just going to waste because there is no OS/2 client. That other distributed thingie, the one looking for the encryptation breaker, that has an OS/2 client.

Sigh.

 

[timwhit]

You could run SETI@home on those computers.... SETI has a cliet for virtually any OS in existance...

 

[Tannin]

But does it actually do anything useful?

 

[timwhit]

No, but you could process Work Units under my name for me. (timwhit@bigfoot.com)

 

[Handruin]

Coug, I'm looking to build a new machine in the next month or so, and that would give us another steady income of crunch time. I leave my boxes on 24x7, so adding another Athlon XP1800 (around that speed) should help out a little bit.

The Quad Xeon is back in action for now. It hasn't stopped crunching yet, so maybe I fixed something. (yeah right) I need to keep ahead of Bartender. :mrgrn:

 

[Sol]

There is an XP 1700 of mine plus assorted K6-IIIs just going to waste because there is no OS/2 client. That other distributed thingie, the one looking for the encryptation breaker, that has an OS/2 client.

Maybe you could look into running the client in an emulator Tanin.

There are a couple listed here which might do the job. A quick search might turn up somthing better though.

 

[Sol]

Like this

 

[Mercutio]

I'm surprised there isn't at least a barebones DOS client out there. Someone being hardcore about things would no doubt get better performance in DOS than anything else, anyway.

 

[CougTek]

Coug, I'm looking to build a new machine in the next month or so, and that would give us another steady income of crunch time. I leave my boxes on 24x7, so adding another Athlon XP1800 (around that speed) should help out a little bit.

Thinking about it, we are fairly crazy. I'm planning to spend a few hundred dollars to revamp a dead system so that it will contribute to my Genome@home stats and you'll spend a few hundred (and hundred U$, that's even worse) too for the same purpose. Pride is expensive isn't it?

At least with the price of computer parts nowadays, building three boxes from scratch doesn't cost more than building just a single one about 5 or 6 years ago.