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blakerwry said:
i don't see how it's possible to lift that much with your legs... simply crazy... After reading this I feel like I am completely out of shape, which is true compared to a couple years ago.

Do feel too bad. My leg strength comes from years of bicycle riding. I basically ride a bike like I'm driving a Ferrari so that tends to require lots of force to the pedals and plenty of well-timed shifting(and braking when some idiot in an SUV cuts in front of me).

Tea would put me and Coug to shame. She could probably bench 3X her weight or more and leg press more than the both of us combined, provided you could find a machine with that capacity.
 

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jtr, those leg press numbers are exceptionally high for a non-pro athlete or a non-bodybuilder. For example, Junior Seau (all-pro linebacker for the SD Chargers for those who don't know) can only do 850 x 15 in the leg press (Muscle and Fitness, Oct 1993).
 

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Speaking of getting in shape: I'm moving containers full of books, CDs and magazines (one magazine, actually, but about 80% of its printed run to date) down to my cars for the driving to my house and it is killing me. Granted, it's over 80 here and about 80% humidity, but holy cow does this suck.

I didn't feel this bad doing this last year.
 

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It really depends on how you define a 'rep' I guess. On the leg press, I would not call it a rep unless your knees bend 90 degrees or more. I've seen guys leg pressing 1000# at my local gym...with a 30degree bend. Big deal.

I'm starting to get back in shape too guys. Back in my prime about 7 years ago, I weighed about 172# and could press 275# once or 245# in sets of 5. I can still remember the day after the first time I did legs. Roll out of bed...go to stand up to take a piss and fall flat on my ass because my legs just would not hold me up! Oh the pain of trying to walk around campus that day!!

I'm starting to get back now although I'm not working out 18 hours per week (2x per day) like I used to. Nowm I'm putting up 200# for sets of 5-6 but I won't try for any more since I'm alone in my basement. I'll rack the bar and pick up my 50# dumbells and finish with those...My progress has been rapid over the past month...it seems to come back easy. I've dropped some weight too going from 178 to 174 which is nice...my pants are much more comfortable now! :)

I also have one of those air resistance rowing machines. I really like it because the harder you pull the more resistance it creates. It's excellent for lats and scaps since I don't have any serious back equipment at home. 20min on that before a rigorous session with free-weights seems like a good system for me. The only thing I miss is doing quads but I guess the rower will have to suffice. Quads=pain anyway...I'm not sure if I could take it.
 

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CDs with the cases are highly obnoxious, too. At least, they are when you're moving several hundred of them at once.

I feel like shit.
 

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Congratulations to Clocker for his return to fitness.

Merc, you should fake-move more often, so the next time you'll move, you'll find it less painful.
 

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Bitching about moving and no mention of the evil trinity? Whatagawan?
If you’re not moving a washing machine, a filling cabinet or a sizeable collection of vinyl, well, pfffft.

Oh and before I forget to say so, congrats on the move Merc, may your bandwidth be broad, your latencies low, and may the BSOD be henceforth a stranger.
 

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I have a 7' steel-with-oak-finish filing cabinet. I also have 3500 Cs, which is probably as bad as a sizable collection of vinyl.
 

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It's not as bad as it sounds. OK. Maybe it is. I buy lots of CDs used or secondhand though. $10/CD for me is way high. Most of the new issues I buy are either imported, on limited-release labels (e.g. Chesky) or, much more likely, from a budget-classical company called Naxos. I've been collecting seriously for about 10 years, and to be honest I haven't substantially added to my collection in the last 12 months or so.
 

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Clocker said:
The only thing I miss is doing quads but I guess the rower will have to suffice. Quads=pain anyway...I'm not sure if I could take it.

Rowing is mostly quads. The machine may have an adjustment. Mine does.

I have recently changed my workout routine from running 4 miles 6x/week to 6 miles 3-4x/week. In six weeks or so I'll start in with the speed work. I'm signed up to run two races this year: Sept 27 and Nov 27.
 

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I bought a weight machine-thing today.

Er, more precisely, I traded an air conditioner for it.

It's about 7' tall, has two benches and any number of pulleys and swiveling doodads on it. There's 300lbs worth of plates. It says "Marcy by Impex" on it.

Of course, I figure that dragging the thing from the garage sale to my house, and the AC from my house to the garage sale, was enough work for today.

It's a start. Maybe.
 

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Where's the wolf whistle emoticon?

PS. I also wish we had an emoticon that looked like a quarter-note or eighth-note.
 

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Good move, Merc. Getting in shape is the first step to feeling better about yourself. Anybody can transform their physique if they commit to regular workouts for a year. It is challenging and represents a long-term commitment, but the feeling of accomplishment from building a better body will serve you well in all aspects of life for years to come. It will give you the confidence in social and professional situations -- not just because you look and feel better, but because of the sense of accomplishment you'll get from the fruits of your labour.

If I may leave you with some pointers...

1. It is a gradual, incremental process, so don't expect miracles in a couple of months.

2. Start slow and don't be too eager to add reps and poundage too quickly. Let your body recover, too. Give your muscles 2-3 days rest between workouts. Most people make the mistake of pushing themselves too much too quickly before their bodies have been able to adapt. Connective tissue (joints, ligaments, tendons) takes longer to adapt than muscle, so even though you may have gained enough muscle strength to be able to lift another 10 pounds, your joints or ligaments may not be ready yet. ("rotator cuffs" are a perfect example of this -- your chest, back and shoulders may be getting stronger, but your rotator cuff muscles often lag behind, resulting in one of the more common injuries in athletes)

3. You need to create a plan and set goals. Set weekly goals like increasing the amount of reps you can do by 1 each week and monthly goals like ncreasing the poundage by 10% every month.

4. You'll need a good resource or two to point you in the right direction. You can always come here; Coug, myself, and others are always willing to help. I also recommend http://www.exrx.net, one of the best online resources in this area IMO. http://www.abcbodybuilding.com and http://www.bodybuilding.com are also not too bad, but they have their share of young hotshots and meatheads on those forums.

5. Remember that nothing good in life comes easily.
 

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I think Merc knows how training works. IIRC, he was doing body building in his teen years to avoid being buggered (?spelling?) by punks at school.
 

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While being buggered isn't anywhere on my personal agenda, I did weight training in H.S. mostly to keep the sorts of idiots who normally bother honors students and choirboys from bothering me. :)
 

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CougTek said:
Eh...that's the kind of misused terms I hope I won't make into a real conversation. Hey, at least I was close to the appropriate word, wasn't I?

To bother

To bug (see description 1a for "bug" as a verb: "to annoy, pester")

The phrase, "I wish you'd stop bugging me," is a slightly more informal version of, "I wish you'd stop bothering me," but they both mean the same thing.


However, buggering/buggery/etc is something totally different, as Mercutio has pointed out. :)

You may hear the expression "Bugger off!" from time to time - but never from an American. It's a British (and possibly Australian?) expression. Again, see Mercutio's link. :)
 

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Mercutio said:
I did weight training in H.S. mostly to keep the sorts of idiots who normally bother honors students and choirboys from bothering me. :)

A small crowbar works nicely for that as well. Hit three or four times, stir and shake lightly. If the message not to mess with you doesn't sink in repeat ad infinitum.

Good to see you getting in shape. Trust me, you'll feel better about yourself. Should you ever decide to take up cycling, I'll be happy to offer some advice(via the Internet of course). As much as I might like to, the bike ride to your place to give you personal training would just be too much for me. I've never attempted a 1,000 mile ride before.

I'm still waiting for my mom to get in good enough shape so I can start her on my own personal exercise regimen. :diablo: By that I mean the kind where she's ready to faint from exhaustion while I'm shouting "one..two..three..four.....I love the Marine Corps".
 

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This large piece of bondage furniture in my garage has exercises I don't think I've ever done before. Chest flies suck.
 

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CougTek said:
I think Merc knows how training works. IIRC, he was doing body building in his teen years to avoid being buggered (?spelling?) by punks at school.
LOL It must have been a really tough school. No wonder they bring guns to school these days. I would too.
 

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In Australia one could say "I'm buggered", meaning one is exausted.

Or "Bugger me!", signifiying shock or surprise. Definitely not an invitation for fudge packing.
 

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Well, Pradeep, don't go saying that over here! I'm constantly amazed at how careful one must be in speech in different parts of the world! A common name in one language could be an insult or a expletive in another.
 

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I have to admit to not realizing the definition of buggered. Not that it was in my daily vocabulary anyway.
 

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Well, Pradeep, don't go saying that over here! I'm constantly amazed at how careful one must be in speech in different parts of the world! A common name in one language could be an insult or a expletive in another.

Then again, sometimes that doesn't even bother us. Consider the Vice President for example, Richard "Dick" Cheney. (Heehee!)
 

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And then there are times when you wish it didn't matter, put it does. Just ask the poor folks who attend beaver.edu.

I have to wonder what it is you Aussies are doing that "bugger" is a synonym for exhaustion, though. ;D
 

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Well, Pradeep, don't go saying that over here!

Hmm ... thinking about that I have to ask, why not? The use of the expression "F*ck me!" (though it needs to be pronounced in a special way to be interpreted correctly - the vowels are drawn out and emphasized) is somewhat common in the USA, and its definition is the same as Pradeep's definition of "Bugger me!": signifiying shock or surprise.

"F*ck me" seems to be a sort of recogniton that one is f*cked. "I'm f*cked" and "f*ck me" are sort of reflections of the same thing: something has occurred that was unexpected and/or unmanageable.
 

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Oh, one more thing: any other Americans/Canadians heard the expression, "Get that little bugger!" I've heard it used in the context of someone hunting or tracking down something of mutual disdain. Likewise of course, I've heard the expression, "Get that little f*cker!" - but that's considered vulgar, whereas you could get away with the "bugger" option just about anywhere.

It just occurred to me that I've heard that expression here in the USA (and not from Australians). Maybe there is some sharing of the term after all.
 

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I honestly don't think many people in the US would know the alternate expression of buggered. I certainly didn't, but then again I never had much need to.

Likewise of course, I've heard the expression, "Get that little f*cker!" - but that's considered vulgar, whereas you could get away with the "bugger" option just about anywhere.

In certain contexts "Get that little f*cker" or "Get that f*cken thing" are perfectly acceptable. My mom used the latter expression all the time while she was killing the roaches coming up from the slobs in the apartment under us. Provided what you're after is vile enough(I think roaches fit the bill) nobody will think the use inappropriate.
 

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Mercutio said:
While being buggered isn't anywhere on my personal agenda, I did weight training in H.S. mostly to keep the sorts of idiots who normally bother honors students and choirboys from bothering me. :)
Well, buggery is more than I really wanted to know. j/k :)

Seriously, I am truly glad to hear that you are getting back in shape. It may take a year or two, but it will be well worthwhile. Just hang in there, dude.
 
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