The same argument applies worldwide. Driving an electric car in China, where coal is by far the largest power plant fuel, is a catastrophe for climate change. And if the coal plant lacks pollution controls—or fails to turn them on—it can amplify the extent of smog, acid rain, lung-damaging microscopic soot and other ills that arise from burning fossil fuels. The same is true in other major coal-burning countries, such as Australia, India and South Africa.
Have you visited a large city in China in the past decade?Obviously in China the dirty coal plants make things worse but the primary problem there was shifting from bikes to cars in cities. It really made no sense. Bikes are ideal for urban transportation. For decades they worked just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Most of the push for cars had little to do with any practical utility gains. Rather, car ownership is seen more a a barometer of individual prosperity used to attract mates. The centrally-planned government of China could have nipped this in the bud given all the problems caused by even a tiny fraction of the population owning cars. So for China the real solution is to just double-down on public transit, reallocate road space back to bikes, and severely restrict, even curtail, car ownership/use in large cities. To some extent we should do a lesser version of all that here in the US as well. EVs are "better" than ICEs, but in general for many types of trips other modes work better. Too much of the US is designed around the private car. We need a real balance between modes.
I've been to Shanghai several times in the past 2 years. First, it's absolutely huge and second, it's very expensive to live there. There's no way public transportation and bikes can get everyone to and from their jobs to where they live.I haven't but my understanding is they're extremely polluted due to both industry and motor vehicles.
Just Google "Chinese cities pollution" and you get images which remind me of NYC in the 1960s.
Looking at Google Earth, the built-up part of Shanghai looks to be roughly the size of NYC, perhaps a little bigger. Yes, it's big, but it's of a size where most transportation needs can be handled by something other than private autos.I've been to Shanghai several times in the past 2 years. First, it's absolutely huge and second, it's very expensive to live there. There's no way public transportation and bikes can get everyone to and from their jobs to where they live.
Why not make EVs with solar panels integrated into the body? No sure how much they'll increase range while in motion but you'll basically be charging the battery anytime the sun is out. They'll also keep you from getting stranded in the outback for lack of recharging stations.For many Australians (I am one), make that ten years "never" as they aren't likely to ever have the range to go into the outback, where there are, in any case, no charging stations. Well, not in my lifetime.
Two more years and they will be history. Then we can start catching up with the rest of the planet.
Single regular solar panel (based on home roof panels)Why not make EVs with solar panels integrated into the body? No sure how much they'll increase range while in motion but you'll basically be charging the battery anytime the sun is out. They'll also keep you from getting stranded in the outback for lack of recharging stations.
[/COLOR]Over seven before that even has a chance of happening in the US (yes, Trump will likely be reelected by huge margins). Ironically, Trump is to the left of his own party and even much of the Democratic party on economic issues. Unfortunately, he's straight GOP on energy and environmental policies, which is basically rape the planet for a quick buck.
I'm thinking along the lines of integrating panels into the roof and hood. That might give you about 1 square meter even being very conservative. At 25% efficiency the numbers actually come out pretty close to yours. Weight penalty should be less since the structure of the car is supporting the silicon.Single regular solar panel (based on home roof panels)
Tesla Model S battery capacity and time to charge using this single panel.
60 kWh = ~226+ hours to charge
85 kWh = ~320+ hours to charge
Tesla Model S: 380 Wh/mile
1.43 hours to charge for a mile in a Tesla on a car assuming 100% efficiency of the panel to charge the battery (unlikely).
Weight 40-45 Lbs for the panel.
It doesn't seem like it would be worth the cost to add the panel. I may have my math wrong so let me know if I'm off on this.
So, basically my impression of Europe based on my time in Belgium and Germany is that unless you want to live like people did before they had cars you need to have a car. I'm thinking back to the days of horse and buggy in the US like the late 1800's. You lived within a relatively close geographical distance of a town that had a stop on some train line. The biggest difference now being that you're not a farmer and you need to have a job that's either commutable to by walking or a bike. Or, commutable to by walking or a bike after you've commuted to the train station and taken the train somewhere. So yeah the old towns (which is most of them) in Europe are not well laid out for cars. The roads are narrow, one way, not a lot of parking, etc.SD, since you were in both China and Europe what were your general impressions of the ease of travel if one doesn't own a car? I'm really curious. Europe seems to have a much more mature cycling and public transit network but China is building up really fast (and perhaps overbuilding). Not planning to move any time soon, but as you know living in a place where I don't need to drive is of paramount importance to me.
Yep, saving money has always been one of my motivations for not having a car. I see family members who always seem to be hit with big repair bills just as they're starting to get ahead on their finances.One plus with not having a car is that you can afford an extra vacation to another country every year or so. (There are usually bus or train lines to the airports). So... you might actually see more of the world that way.
I've found for many trips in the city, the bike is as fast or faster than a car. One regular trip I used to make was to a shopping center 7 miles away. Car took 20 to 25 minutes, depending upon traffic. Bike seemed to average about 23 minutes, but I made it a few times in 21 minutes (I was obviously hauling a$$ to make the trip that fast).Another cool thing, if you're living close to work a bike is actually faster than a car. I live 10 minutes, maybe 12 in the winter, from my work by bike and it takes about the same time to drive the car + removing ice from the windows before leaving + finding a parking space when I arrive at work + I don't need to pay for a gym card. That's one advantage of living in a small town.
Actually, I already know all about the great Dutch cycling network. I particularly love their growing system of bicycle superhighways: http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/search/label/superhighways
E-bikes can actually fill quite a few trips which are too long for a bike but rather inefficient to do by car. A susbidy makes sense.The government here just decided to give a 25% subsidy on electric bikes by the way. The purpose is to stimulate bike commuting on longer distances. And if you have an electric cargo bike you can replace quite a few car journeys to the supermarket/daycare etc. with the bike without having to work up a sweat.
And just to talk a bit about cars, we also get an increased subsidy on electric cars, 60000 SEK vs 50000 SEK now. My plan is to drive my current car (and bike of course) until it's time for the scrap heap and then get an electric car in maybe 5 years time.
I visited Amsterdam once and i loved exactly what you just described! Maybe it's just me but i get the sense that in the Netherlands the air seems to be much more clearer. I swear i felt like my lungs were going through rehab...but then again i was a smoker for 5 years and i quit 2 years ago. The air there gave me new lungs! and i will forever be grateful. The more that i talk about it. The more that i feel like i should go back, i.e visit one more time.Actually, I already know all about the great Dutch cycling network. I particularly love their growing system of bicycle superhighways: http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/search/label/superhighways
They realized if you want to get people riding bikes you have to make it safe, stress-free, and efficient (they seldom use traffic signals on bike paths except to give bikes priority over cars at intersections). They often have bike paths go above or below major intersections to avoid conflicts and delays. I also love how almost nobody wears a helmet. That makes cycling as natural as walking. I don't wear a helmet, either.
Do agree with you, I enjoyed Amsterdam cycling too and felt safe, also the air is better, absolutely agree. I would love to live in a place like that!I visited Amsterdam once and i loved exactly what you just described! Maybe it's just me but i get the sense that in the Netherlands the air seems to be much more clearer. I swear i felt like my lungs were going through rehab...but then again i was a smoker for 5 years and i quit 2 years ago. The air there gave me new lungs! and i will forever be grateful. The more that i talk about it. The more that i feel like i should go back, i.e visit one more time.