Stereodude
Not really a
And that's a problem why? What program as you using that can take advantage of all that RAM?I don't see that any of the boards handle 64GB. Apparently that Hasbro CPU is limited to 32GB for some reason.uke-r:
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ddrueding
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ddrueding
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I haven't put in time to OC the 4770 yet. I'll need to do that before I can tell you for sure, but I suspect it may be. And the fewer cores makes it a more consistent performer.
ddrueding
Fixture
Finally got around to starting to OC this thing (my sig, "Work2"). I can't even take the base clock from 100 to 103 without an instant hard-freeze. Something must be wrong.
Stereodude
Not really a
Change the multiplier. Why are you screwing with the base clock?
ddrueding
Fixture
It isn't an unlocked chip.
Do I need those fancy transvagional and virtual features for PS and Capture One?
The old P4 also did not overclock worth a damn, e.g., my 3.2GHz was only good for 3.4Ghz. It's seemingly full circle now.
Probably not (yet), but if you are going to be running future virtualization products (like Win8) then eventually very likely. Note, I can't use the Win8 virtualization features (or even server 2012 Hyper-V but 2008 hypwer-v is fine) on core2duo processors and I can't install Win8 at all on any P4 that doesn't have virtualization (Vt-d) or support for the NX bit in the BIOS and some P4's have those and some do not.
So in the long run, those features likely to be important, but not yet for it is just to new and the software hasn't been built that requires them.
Stereodude
Not really a
Uh... Good luck with that. If you want to overclock you buy a K chip.
Chewy509
Wotty wot wot.
Only if running Xen, VMWare, VirtualBox, QEMU or DOSBOX...
In most cases if all you're doing is running a Windows environment, then no...
Stereodude
Not really a
Prior non K CPUs of Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge allowed you to change the multiplier up to 4 steps higher. That means you could take a 3.0gHz chip to 3.4gHz. With Haswell, Intel got rid of that.
Stereodude
Not really a
I'm sure Merc will be along shortly to comment on this.
Adcadet
Storage Freak
Transvag? Didn't expect to run across this.
ddrueding
Fixture
Yup. No OC'ing at all. I knew the multiplier would be locked, but I didn't expect the bclk to be useless as well.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Indeed. I think dd really got transvaginal'd on this CPU. But Intel has to sell those -EE SKUs somehow.
Stereodude
Not really a
Why not? It wasn't very useful on Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge.
Stereodude
Not really a
You don't get a 3.9gHz with all the cores loaded you get 3.7gHz.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
The -k CPUs have their own set of drawbacks, principally from the loss of hardware virtualization support. If you want to run a cheap server on desktop parts, you have to go live in AMD's world.
ddrueding
Fixture
Indeed. The virtualization features were necessary. I'm just used to being able to squeeze something extra, even if it is only 10%.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
People building monsters might want to look at this. I'd like the source article but it's in Japanese.
ddrueding
Fixture
That is annoying.
Stereodude
Not really a
FWIW, the TIM is old news. Sandy Bridge was the last one with the IHS soldered to the die.
CougTek
Hairy Aussie
They better not do the same trick on their server chips. Those I'll buy for the server farm upgrade in about three weeks will cost ~3000$ each. If one fails just after its warranty expires and I find out those mofo put a cheap thermal interface into it, I'll drive to their head quarter and I'll strangle a bunch of engineers with my bare hands.
jtr1962
Storage? I am Storage!
Strangle the bean counters instead. The engineers I'm sure want the best thermal interface. It's the accountants who tell them otherwise. I can't say how many otherwise great products have been ruined by planned obsolescence and/or intentionally designing in failure points, all in the name of increasing profits.
ddrueding
Fixture
Storage porn. I've found people online who were able to install Win10 on a RAID0 of these beasts.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Every board I've worked on that used them needed multiple BIOS flashes before those would even boot. Also, what do you suppose the actual real-world gain from using just one might be? I'd put money on under half a second faster for Windows boot time.
ddrueding
Fixture
This system is going to have two Titan X and a 9x120mm radiator system, it is in no way about real-world performance.
ddrueding
Fixture
Board in question is a Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming G1
CougTek
Hairy Aussie
ddrueding
Fixture
My clients have the money. At their level this isn't even a poor choice. I try to cultivate a knowledge and appreciation of what is possible and they choose to have it. Compared to a garage full of sports cars or a jet (or both) this is chump change.