Pradeep
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http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/04/county-firefighters-subscription/
Fee based services at their full potential?
Fee based services at their full potential?
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ddrueding
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I don't actually see a problem with it. They were free to not only pay the $75, but had the choice to secure against it using other means as well (sprinkler system in the house, large water tank on the property, etc).
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Let's pretend it was your house and your wife forgot to pay the fee. There's also been some sort of bank mixup and the insurance company didn't receive your premium. The sprinkler system that you spent thousands on fails because you mixed up the LED lighting with the high-pressure plumbing. And the water tank pump gives out under the stress of trying to drive all those LEDs.
You offer each and every firefighter $1000 but they say it's too late. You say, "take my new Golf R20" and they say, "no thanks, I prefer my F150".
In desperation, you attach a hose to a laptop with an i7 and a RAID-0 SSD, but the fire just gets faster and the three USB fans fan the flames.
What if it was your parent's house? What if, like the pets, they couldn't get out?
You offer each and every firefighter $1000 but they say it's too late. You say, "take my new Golf R20" and they say, "no thanks, I prefer my F150".
In desperation, you attach a hose to a laptop with an i7 and a RAID-0 SSD, but the fire just gets faster and the three USB fans fan the flames.
What if it was your parent's house? What if, like the pets, they couldn't get out?
ddrueding
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What if the fire department, no longer seeing any money from the rural areas, decided to stop offering the subscription service altogether? What if, instead, they simply had a $20k fee to make house calls outside their area? Money up front, if you please.
The fire department is a business with the city's taxpaying residents as it's customers. That they offered to expand their customer base to others outside their area was darn nice of them; they could have not gone at all.
The fire department is a business with the city's taxpaying residents as it's customers. That they offered to expand their customer base to others outside their area was darn nice of them; they could have not gone at all.
Pradeep
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Pradeep
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Currently the closest fire truck is just 3 minutes down the road, staffed by volunteers. Prob 8 minutes to gather at scene with the hose hooked and interior certified guys going in. My friend got certified to drive the truck, I would roll the big bastard for sure. The wood interior panneling that's in a lot of homes goes up real fast. Only the bigger cities have the paid positions (pensions funding costs are rising significantly), which is 15 minutes away. Hydrants aplenty. Still was too late for the young guy that had laid down for a nap in the house down the street. If it had been my adjacent neighbours I would have gone in to check for their kids and pets, but this house's occupants were unknown to me.
In regards pay for service, back in the day in Australia I paid for annual ambulance coverage out in the Victorian bush, $70 or somesuch. They would still transport you without insurance, just the cost was a couple grand and you were billed. They wouldn't refuse to save you, just like a hospital.
In regards pay for service, back in the day in Australia I paid for annual ambulance coverage out in the Victorian bush, $70 or somesuch. They would still transport you without insurance, just the cost was a couple grand and you were billed. They wouldn't refuse to save you, just like a hospital.
ddrueding
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In my new house, the city's main fire station (#1) is 3 miles away and the hydrant is in front of my house, on the property line.
I'm fine with that, it essentially makes the annual fee an insurance policy.
I'm fine with that, it essentially makes the annual fee an insurance policy.
I wonder if your home insurance policy covers you if you "forget" to pay your fire bill? That could potentially really suck.
Some books I have been reading have all public services privatized, police fire etc. Looks like we are getting there in some areas.
Some books I have been reading have all public services privatized, police fire etc. Looks like we are getting there in some areas.
I had to call the fire dept just this past Thursday (first time I've ever had to do this...actually it was my girlfriend who called). We haven't been home in the past several days because we've had our floors redone, so we had to be out of the house while the floors dried. As part of letting polyurethane dry, they needed the heat to be on because the temperature has dropped here, so we reconnected the steam radiators. When I got home Thursday evening after picking up my cat (she had been visiting my parents for the past two months), I was smelling a strong oil burnt smell coming from the basement. I walked down there and thick white smoke was billowing from the oil burner. The firetrucks got her in about 3 minutes. We're lucky enough to live within walking distance (about 1/4 mile) of the fire station which is nice for this sort of thing, but the downside is we hear every fire call. Anyway, they came and checked it out, but nothing actually ignited (thankfully). The oil company service crew came out Friday afternoon. We think what happened is that the attic house fan was running while the furnace was running causing a negative draft and pulling the smoke back into the house. That makes sense now, but we were running the attic fan to pull the polyurethane fumes out, but forgot the thermostat was left on.
My friend planned his wedding for today to make it easier to remember their anniversary.
My girlfriend and I are doing their photography as the gift.
Bozo
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If the home owners had been paying all along, why not put the fire out and then ask for the fee? Or bill them for the expense of the fire call.
It was a house trailer. I doubt the fire company could have saved it anyway.
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The video shows what looks very much like a timber framed wall. Where did you get the idea that it was a trailer?
In any case, I don't know why a steel-framed relocatable home would be harder to manage than a conventional house. They're stronger if anything - not that that counts as fire resistance ...
In any case, I don't know why a steel-framed relocatable home would be harder to manage than a conventional house. They're stronger if anything - not that that counts as fire resistance ...
It is over now (locally). Somehow, I don't feel any different.
CougTek
Hairy Aussie
The only place in the U.S.A. where it is no longer October 10th 2010 is Guam. Otherwise, it is still 10-10-10.
Bozo
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House trailers have a steel under frame, but the 'house' is made of wood. And the interier walls are usually some type of prefinished plywood. They are a fire waiting to happen. You have about 3 minutes to get out if a fire starts.
[I have relatives that live in a house trailer that I have worked on]
My friend planned his wedding for today to make it easier to remember their anniversary.
It may not be the best idea. When the male half forgets anyway, there will be no excuse. :lol:
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Interesting. What I call "relocatable homes" here are steel framed and designed to be transported in two sections, then reassembled onsite. They seem to use conventional interior materials, but maybe it's stronger than regular plasterboard/drywall. Certainly, timber is conspicuous by its absence.
Chewy509
Wotty wot wot.
Been doing some research into malware (for a Uni assignment, one of the reasons I've been rather quiet), and stumbled across these 2 little tidbits:
"Chuck Norris" worm capable of infecting Linux based routers: http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/336938/chuck_norris_botnet_karate-chops_routers_hard/
and this in regards to Netgear Routers: http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/371575
The last one is pretty goofy, get root on a Netgear router without debug mode or knowing any user authentication details...
"Chuck Norris" worm capable of infecting Linux based routers: http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/336938/chuck_norris_botnet_karate-chops_routers_hard/
and this in regards to Netgear Routers: http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/371575
The last one is pretty goofy, get root on a Netgear router without debug mode or knowing any user authentication details...
ddrueding
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Congrats to Stereodude for managing 4000 posts!
Stereodude
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Heh, Thanks. I hadn't noticed, but I guess I've been busy posting away.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
4000 is a good number of posts to have.
Bozo
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4000 post, great! :cheers:
Pradeep
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The only real worry would be your power supply, and regularity thereof. However, given this is a favor you do for us, I wouldn't be complaining if the site was down for a couple of hours each year due to local conditions on your end. That's certainly fast enough for storageforum.net.
ddrueding
Fixture
Looks perfectly adequate. I'd be happy to contribute for some hardware, or you could stick it on one of your VMs.
Well, assuming I can figure out a way to get a static IP address, I do have a plan to help continue uptime if I decide to go this route. I suspect it still won't be for several more months before I decide what I'll do. i'm paying about $35/month to host SF now, but if I could move that to the cost of a static IP, I could then provide much faster hardware and more storage space compared to what it would cost me to upgrade to a dedicated server that is hosted.
As you've probably seen from other posts, I've built a NAS server and wired my house with a bunch of CAT 6 connectivity to a layer 2 switch. I am now in the research phase of building two boxes capable of running ESXi. I will then use iSCSI to provide storage via my NAS with multiple Ethernet ports for trunking, redundancy, etc.
This will give me the ability to host SF as a VM and segment it from the rest of my stuff. I will have two ESXi boxes with vMotion capabilities to allow me to bring either box down for service/updating without bringing SF down.
Now power would be one of several factors that I can't do a whole lot about. I plan to use UPS for the systems, but if the power is out for extended time, I can't control what FiOS will be able to provide in terms of connectivity uptime. Their box provides 8 hours of uptime but only for phone, so I'm out of luck there. There could also be occasional outages that I can't control. As far as I know now, there is no cap on bandwidth usage.
These are just some of the thoughts I've been playing with in the past few months.
Stereodude
Not really a
You might want to make sure there's nothing in the TOS that prevents you from running a server from your house.
timwhit
Hairy Aussie
With a service like DynDNS you wouldn't have to pay for a static IP address.
Your TOS may forbid you to run servers, but they may not care, especially for something that probably doesn't use all that much bandwidth.
I'm doing that right now with a temporary site and it's working fine. My router has the dyndns feature built into it to update every n number of seconds.
Bozo
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I just upgraded my home internet service this past Wednesday. I'm thinking maybe I could host SF here?
Cool! Let us know if there is anything we can do to help.
Yeah, Handruin I have fairpoint, used to be verizon in Nashua NH and I know that they block 21, 80 and 443 at a minimum. I was able to throw up apache on 8080 but I haven't figured out how to move the home server to another port, not that I tried hard. I also know our IT dept had some problems getting my cisco 871 vpn working here.
Have to go business class to get things unblocked.
Looks like you got the new higher speeds they are rolling out in the area. I'm not terribly unhappy with my 3360/800 Kbps connection but could always enjoy more.
Edit, just noticed that was the test server in manchester. You on FIOS or something down in MA?
Pradeep
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Is the ONT mounted inside? Should be able to plug it into a UPS (along with the networking gear etc).
Pradeep
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Sorry, inside/outside won't matter. If you plug the power adaptor that goes to the battery pack into a UPS that should boost your runtimes. It won't know the power is out till your UPS drains.
I have found that my verizon/fairpoint DSL stays up during a power failure. Most phone companies have an extremely long run time 48v battery system and as there isn't any hardware between my house and the telco so that makes sense.
I can't say the same for cable modems I have had, they have boosters on poles that go out with the power. Wonder how much equipment is deployed in the field for the fios stuff?
I can't say the same for cable modems I have had, they have boosters on poles that go out with the power. Wonder how much equipment is deployed in the field for the fios stuff?
timwhit
Hairy Aussie
How about co-locating the hosting with another member? With something like DynDNS it wouldn't be very hard to automatically check to see if your host is unavailable and then update DynDNS with a new IP address. The data could be mirrored at interval and the switchback could be handled manually.