Will Rickards
Storage Is My Life
Did you see the vibration demo?
I couldn't figure out what that was for.
I couldn't figure out what that was for.
SSDs - State of the Product?
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ddrueding
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Because some people don't understand that SSD means solid state? Interesting that they are using the acronym DOM (disk on module) as a name? It is nice to not need a data or power cable...
ddrueding
Fixture
I would go with the OCZ Vertex. 60GB for $229 or 120GB for $355 both my i7 workstations are running a pair in RAID-0 at the boot drive. The 30GB for $149 is too good to pass up.
Stereodude
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FWIW, those prices suck. The 30GB OCZ Vertex has dipped as low as $115 after rebate. Not sure why it's worth $149 now. And, the Intel 80GB has been as low as $295.
ddrueding
Fixture
The X-Fi Forte is a 1x PCI-E card. I was out of regular PCI slots.
sechs
Storage? I am Storage!
Does anyone have experience with the OCZ Vertex series or Kingston SSDnow M series (of apparent Intel rebadges)?
Looks like OCZ is announcing a Agility series 2.5" drive. They also have them on a product page here.
Engadget says the prices may be the following:
"...the trio of models will be available in a fortnight or so for $129.99 (30GB), $219.99 (60GB) and $349.99 (120GB)."
Engadget says the prices may be the following:
"...the trio of models will be available in a fortnight or so for $129.99 (30GB), $219.99 (60GB) and $349.99 (120GB)."
ddrueding
Fixture
Both. Quite a few of the Vertex (8? 12? something like that). And I did get some of the Kingston rebrands as well.
ddrueding
Fixture
Just a bit more performance and the same pricing as the Vertex. We'll see when the benchmarks come out.
sechs
Storage? I am Storage!
Perhaps my question was too narrow. Could you expound on that?
ddrueding
Fixture
The OCZ Vertex work great. There is no way I could tell the difference between them and an Intel "M" SSD without benchmarks. The larger capacity at each price point has caused me to switch to them over the Intel drives. The Kingston "M" series is exactly an Intel "M". The only thing different is the device ID and the sticker.
sechs
Storage? I am Storage!
Except for them announcing another new line, the Vertex sounds like a good choice. A few more questions:
Have you bothered futzing with all of that stuff they suggest in OCZ's fora?
What's your experience on firmware updates?
Have you bothered futzing with all of that stuff they suggest in OCZ's fora?
What's your experience on firmware updates?
Where are we now with the state of the SSD? I'm suffering from lack of capacity in the 32GB X25-E. Are there any alternatives with good write performance like the X25-E? $750 seems excessive for the 64GB X25-E if there is something better or the same available now or very soon.
ddrueding
Fixture
The X25-M and OCZ Vertex are the closest thing on this side of $750. A pair of X25-M in RAID0 made my i7 the bottleneck for most operations. What task are you trying to optimize for?
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
I forgot this thread. My limitations are mostly with PS and (infrequently) PTGUI. The problem is that I have only one SSD, so the system can bog down when it is in heavy use. I can't decide whether it would be worthwhile to add another SDD, so that the temp files could be on a separate drive from the OS and page files. I'm not sure if that would help enough.
Santilli
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Nothing new. Caught em doing this with Grackle chipset on the G3's, limiting PCI bus speed.
Only a few true speed freaks would ever push it fast enough to find out about it.
Probably about 2% of MacUsers ever hit such a barrier, and, at that point, they become ex-macusers...
ddrueding
Fixture
Which SSDs are you putting in a MacBook Pro (and what apps are you running) that would cause real-world performance to be affected by a cap at 150Mb/s? Perhaps it was the lack of other features related to the spec?
Command queuing maybe??
Fushigi
Storage Is My Life
Has anyone looked at the OCZ Summit series? It looks like a Vertex with twice the buffer (128MB).
sechs
Storage? I am Storage!
Summit uses a Samsung controller. Vertex uses an Indilinx controller.
From what I can tell, the difference in performance and price is not large.
From what I can tell, the difference in performance and price is not large.
udaman
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Like I sed b4, 2 many models:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocz-vertex-turbo-edition-ssd,8211.html
Tom's says(along with incorrect GB sizing):
This site is gouging then? :
http://www.xpcgear.com/ocz-250gb-oczssd2-1vtxt250g-vertex.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocz-vertex-turbo-edition-ssd,8211.html
Tom's says(along with incorrect GB sizing):
This site is gouging then? :
http://www.xpcgear.com/ocz-250gb-oczssd2-1vtxt250g-vertex.html
ddrueding
Fixture
Nope.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
I got an OCZ Vertex 120GB drive yesterday. It's definitely faster for writes than my X25-Ms but read performance as measured by system startup seems to be about the same, with Server 2003 needing about 16 seconds on either drive.
I can't quite bring myself to cough up for an SLC drive though.
I can't quite bring myself to cough up for an SLC drive though.
ddrueding
Fixture
I treat them as a direct replacement, only depending on price.
A little cheaper now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167014 The 32GB was that price when I bought it. 
sechs
Storage? I am Storage!
I think that Samsung has an SLC controller, but I don't think that it's better than Intel's.
I finally got the Vertex that I ordered and installed Windows on it. It's a lot less impressive than I'd been lead to believe.
It's definitely faster than the 10k SAS drive that it displaced. Windows gets to a useable state much faster, and Photoshop CS4 loads pretty quick. But it's not the whiz-bang wow speeds that a lot of people on the Internet have been reporting.
It is a lot cooler and seems to run on less power (which is not that hard to do). Definitely, at this performance level, it would be worth specifying SSDs as an upgrade for some laptop users.
What needs to happen is for prices to come down. I can't imagine putting anything less than a 60GB drive in a user's computer these days, but~$175 is a bit steep. And really, the folks who are willing to shell out, really want/need much larger drives, which may involve the trading of unborn children.
I see prices falling now. When should we expect the next generation of drives to be on the market?