ddrueding
Fixture
Backup your data and format.
Windows 7 nonsense
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Backup your data and format.
What data? Can it affect other drives? I was thinking to delete all partitions on the G2 and use it, since that drive is expendable in case the Windows 7 destroys it. Can I install in the normal mode, without using the ACHI?
Fushigi
Storage Is My Life
Just did an upgrade from Vista Basic to 7 Home Premium using one of my Family 3-pack licenses. Took about an hour to save the user settings, do the upgrade, and restore the settings.
The only thing it complained about was the ATI Catalyst drivers. It recommended uninstalling them so I did. Post-upgrade I installed the current drivers w/no problems.
32-bit OS, Q6600 w/2GB RAM, 80GB 5400RPM Fujitsu notebook HD, Radeon 3870, POS free-after-rebate motherboard.
The only thing it complained about was the ATI Catalyst drivers. It recommended uninstalling them so I did. Post-upgrade I installed the current drivers w/no problems.
32-bit OS, Q6600 w/2GB RAM, 80GB 5400RPM Fujitsu notebook HD, Radeon 3870, POS free-after-rebate motherboard.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
That, and they want to be able to say that the adoption rate is through the roof as a marketing/sales thing. It was X% better than Vista so buy our stock or suchlike.
Overall I'd say Vista was a huge black eye and they'd really like everyone to forget about it.
Overall I'd say Vista was a huge black eye and they'd really like everyone to forget about it.
ddrueding
Fixture
It can affect other drives in the same way that Vista could. It may decide to put a small partition on another drive if it feels that one is primary, and it may assign a drive letter other than C. I recommend disconnecting drives and memory card adapters during OS installs, just makes things easier.
If you are going to use the drive in ACHI mode, install with it enabled. You won't need any driver disks.
sechs
Storage? I am Storage!
Windows?
ddrueding
Fixture
You know, there are people here that would gladly help you out, if you said what the problem was...
Yeah, now win 2000 with those four boot disks was a pain in the ass, win7 is nothing compared to that.
You added another drive and it doesn't boot? The drive must have been plugged into a lower port number and took priority?
You added another drive and it doesn't boot? The drive must have been plugged into a lower port number and took priority?
Sorry for not being coherent. 
I understand the problem, but it is too painful to access and pull the computer. Maybe I'll feel better in January.
Mostly I just wanted to confirm which older applications work under Win 7. From what I saw briefly, I have no interest in using it until absolutely necessary.
I understand the problem, but it is too painful to access and pull the computer. Maybe I'll feel better in January. Mostly I just wanted to confirm which older applications work under Win 7. From what I saw briefly, I have no interest in using it until absolutely necessary.
Win 7 decided that it should install a botoloader on my OS drive even though the installation was to a clean drive. So after removing the Win 7 drive, the normal OS is useless. Then after restoring the normal OS, Win 7 does not boot directly from its own drive, presumably because it is looking for the bootloader on the other drive that is no longer there. I can imagine that some people would mess up a system and be out of luck. Anyway it was only a little time lost.
ddrueding
Fixture
As I suggested, remove all other drives before installing the OS. It should have also warned you about making changes to other drives during the install.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
There's an application called EasyBCD that can probably fix that for you, LM.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
Vista and 7 use a different boot loader than earlier versions of Windows. If it's screwed up it can be a total PITA to fix. Microsoft makes a poorly documented command line tool called bcdedit to do it, but by far the easiest way to put things back the way they were is to use EasyBCD.
Bozo
Storage? I am Storage!
When Windows 7 and Vista install, they create a 100MB partition for the boot files. If you have multiple drives installed, it could end up on any one of them. In my system, the boot partition is on a different hard drive than the OS. Actually, they are on two different RAID cards.
If you make any OS changes or hard drive changes, there is a good chance you will hose your system.
And, the rescue disk will not fix the problem.
If you make any OS changes or hard drive changes, there is a good chance you will hose your system.
And, the rescue disk will not fix the problem.
Pradeep
Storage? I am Storage!
XP for the win! Trust ms to bugger around with the mbr etc.
ddrueding
Fixture
If I knew WTF dfuirvem was, I would be able to help you.
If you meant "just the one drive plugged in", then yes. It won't mess with the drives that aren't connected.
If you meant "just the one drive plugged in", then yes. It won't mess with the drives that aren't connected.
Yes, that is what I meant. I hope it doesn't mess up the other drives later on.
ddrueding
Fixture
It won't. The only reason it wrote stuff to another drive is that it thought that the other disk came first in the boot order. I assume you choose boot drive using the BIOS?
ddrueding
Fixture
Sorry, yeah, that is what I meant. As opposed to screwing with a boot loader.
sechs
Storage? I am Storage!
What's the point of an OS loader if it screws up OS loading?
ddrueding
Fixture
No idea. That is why I don't use them.
ddrueding
Fixture
But I don't want an OS loader.
Neither do I. The best way to avoid messing with them is to make sure the hard drive you are installing to is the only one connected when you install the OS.
*To get technical, there is always an OS loader. But if the loader thinks it is the only OS on the system, it is silent.
ddrueding
Fixture
That is part of it, yes.
ddrueding
Fixture
Managed to bring my entire main rig to a screeching halt for over a minute, repeatedly. All apps, all windows, even the windows button didn't work. The offense? Rendering thumbnails from a folder of jpgs that sat on a slow network connection (20MB/s).
It's this crap that makes me want XPx64 back.
It's this crap that makes me want XPx64 back.
Bozo
Storage? I am Storage!
Try 2008 R2. Much better than Win 7.
I want to see if I can get the same result. I know I've looked at lots of images over the network with thumbnail view, but I found that windows just draws the thumbnail whenever it can. I haven't had the machine come to a halt though. Roughly how many images were you viewing when it happened?
ddrueding
Fixture
The folder contained maybe 400 jpgs that were about 10MB each. I choose "large thumbnails" and started scrolling down through them. It was only generating them on demand; leaving the machine for an hour didn't have any more thumbnails than the screen I was looking at.
The cause was scrolling down through them until I was looking at a page with none generated at all. The green bar would start crawling across the address bar, but no additional thumbnails would appear. During this time the machine was unresponsive. After the bar finished, the thumbnails would appear.
Worth noting, the speed from the array might have been much slower. There was torrenting, audio streaming, and possibly a movie streaming off that array at the same time.
The cause was scrolling down through them until I was looking at a page with none generated at all. The green bar would start crawling across the address bar, but no additional thumbnails would appear. During this time the machine was unresponsive. After the bar finished, the thumbnails would appear.
Worth noting, the speed from the array might have been much slower. There was torrenting, audio streaming, and possibly a movie streaming off that array at the same time.