So far no major violence, just a few isolated incidents. All we saw yesterday was hordes of people taking to the streets in major US cities peacefully celebrating Biden's victory. Still a bad idea given that they weren't social distancing, even if most wore masks. The entire scene reminded me of the end of Return of the Jedi where the galaxy is celebrating the defeat of the evil emperor. I'm just worried this evil emperor might be right back in 4 years. There's talk of a "resurrection" run in 2024. Maybe I should have everything in order to emigrate to Canada should that happen.So what's the mood in the streets throughout most cities in the US at the moment?
Any serious threat of civil unrest or possible civil war between the two factions? From what's being reported here, that most vocal Trump supporters appear quite fanatical?
I'd agree with you and prepare myself, but most countries immigration policies require you actually bring something to the table, and I really don't, so... I guess I'm stuck.I'm just worried this evil emperor might be right back in 4 years. There's talk of a "resurrection" run in 2024. Maybe I should have everything in order to emigrate to Canada should that happen.
I find this notion of running away to another country kind of a knee-jerk reaction that needs a calmer head. I mean, go to a beautiful country like Sweden if you want to, but don't run away when things get difficult. The US landscape is physically enormous and diverse. The culture, climate, and government structure where you live now doesn't entirely represent the US even if the overarching federal climate is a disaster. Perhaps you should consider first moving to a new state that reflects and upholds the values you desire. Focus your time and energy there to better yourself and the communities there. Work to help vote and advocate for improvements both locally and nationwide.I'd agree with you and prepare myself, but most countries immigration policies require you actually bring something to the table, and I really don't, so... I guess I'm stuck.
I'll tell you right now that if Trump wins again in 2024 he's going to go full megalomaniac. Then again, I'm not sure he won't go full megalomaniac in the next months and seize power by force. It seems to be what he's gearing up for.
It's actually the Democrats that were big into slave ownership and denying African Americans their rights back in the day.I agree with you, the times have changed, even Utah has forbidden slavery. More and more conservative values goes away.
Voters in Utah have passed an amendment to remove a provision from the state constitution that allows slavery or involuntary servitude if it is as punishment for a crime. What do you think?www.theonion.com
The polls were wrong again, just like in 2016, while they predicted Biden would win comfortably it was actually pretty close. Now what is interesting is there really wasn't a big blue wave this time like there was for the House midterms in 2018. In fact the Republicans have picked up several House seats (many being women). And now in the Senate race, with the Republicans leading 50 seats to 48, the Dems need to win both Georgia runoff elections in January, to then use Kamala as the tie breaker.I'm surprised how close it has become... What's being reported here in Oz, is that Biden pretty much has won it (assuming he wins NV).
However lots of reports of claims that Trump's allies and even himself will launch legal action over various aspects of vote counting, etc.
I do find the talking point of Socialism and Marxism interesting and it is a common theme from many Republicans/conservatives I've chatted with. Your point suggests that the right feels the current Democratic party that is soon to take office is at the far left when really it's more at the center.Or a significant amount of citizens decided they didn't want to go down the Socialist/Marxist path that the far left of the Democrat party represents.
Except that's not even remotely true. The far left of the Democratic party gets a lot of press coverage but most of their ideas will never make through even a Congress controlled by their party. There was a time in the 1960s and 1970s when the Democrats were giving working people heavy tax hikes. The end result was Reagan. I think they've learned that lesson. Now they only talk about tax hikes on the rich, meaning those making over $400K. Fine by me. So is Warren's wealth tax on wealth over $50 million. That will affect only about 75,000 households. I don't see why something like that shouldn't have a huge majority support from both parties. Ditto for forgiving student loans. The GOP shouldn't be against that but they are because some of their supporters run illegitimate collection agencies which make a small fortune on people who had the misfortune of defaulting on their loans. They couldn't pay, and now with all the added fees they'll be paying until they die even if they get a job.Or a significant amount of citizens decided they didn't want to go down the Socialist/Marxist path that the far left of the Democrat party represents.
This is sad cancel culture in action. That you would punish someone for their political leanings, when it has nothing to do with the product or service that business provides. You are saying that person must agree with you or hes out on the street with his family. That's really sad morally imo.For my part I'm doing my best to make sure Trump followers get hit where it hurts, in the wallet. I convinced a friend of mine to no longer do business with someone who he said was a vehement Trump supporter. Without my friend it's highly likely this person will go out of business. If everyone does this it will be toxic in the future to support someone like Trump.
No, I would agree with you that Biden represents the middle of the party. It's the Bernies, AOCs etc that represent more of the extreme left. With the Senate race being so tight that does help Biden in that Bernie and Warren cant take risks with their seats and move to Cabinet positions. I think Kamala tends to the left, and no doubt she'll be President once Joe is wheeled off to the old folks home.I do find the talking point of Socialism and Marxism interesting and it is a common theme from many Republicans/conservatives I've chatted with. Your point suggests that the right feels the current Democratic party that is soon to take office is at the far left when really it's more at the center.
A true Socialist/Marxist agenda would be much, much different than what's being offered today. The notable Democrats farthest to the left are probably Bernie and AOC to name couple. Both of them are Democratic Socialists but still aren't anywhere near far left that a full-on Socialistic society would represent. At least not to the same dramatic impact if we compared what the far-right/alt-right represents. The DS agenda is left of center, sure, but it does not represent straight Socialism. It's more of a reformed Capitalism that favors the people. Basically not letting the entirety of big corporate bureaucracies control our society and people. Social/economical change should be represented by those who are most affected by it.
No, I'm not saying that at all. We're basically a centrist nation, and most people are fine with views that are somewhat left or right of center. Prior to the Trump era, I would never even think of boycotting a business for their political leanings, even if I didn't agree with them, because in the end their views weren't something I saw as harmful to the country. Now along comes Trump. Suddenly racism, white supremacy, religious extremism, voter suppression in Democratic cities, xenophobia, conspiracy theories, plus a whole bunch of other dangerous things, are OK. Just one or two of these things represents an extreme threat to the country. All of them heads us down a path I'd rather not think about. Then you have science denial which is hurting me long-term by our failure to fight climate change, and short term by failing to protect me from a highly contagious, dangerous disease. On top of that you have Trump actively refusing to help "poorly run Democratic states", even though those are net donor states nationally. The bottom line is a second Trump term couldn't end well. The first one didn't even end well.This is sad cancel culture in action. That you would punish someone for their political leanings, when it has nothing to do with the product or service that business provides. You are saying that person must agree with you or hes out on the street with his family. That's really sad morally imo.
You talk about Nazi Germany but its your actions that seem to follow their processes.
Like trump using his platform to advocate people cancel buying from goodyear? Or suggest he's never eating an oreo again? Scots should boycott Glenfiddich? People should cancel HBO? People should boycott all Apple products?This is sad cancel culture in action. That you would punish someone for their political leanings, when it has nothing to do with the product or service that business provides. You are saying that person must agree with you or hes out on the street with his family. That's really sad morally imo.
You talk about Nazi Germany but its your actions that seem to follow their processes.
What about Trump's travel ban from Muslim countries, even though it's only the Muslim extremists who cause problems, while at the same time he appointed a Christian religious extremist to the Supreme Court! I guess religious extremists are OK if they happen to be from a religion you like. Trump does so much of what he accuses the left of doing that it isn't even funny. I'll be glad when this circus is finally over on January 20. Hopefully the case against Trump in NY or somewhere else will prevail and that will be the last we see of his influence. Maybe Putin can take him in as a refugee if he flees the country to avoid jail time.Like trump using his platform to advocate people cancel buying from goodyear? Or suggest he's never eating an oreo again? Scots should boycott Glenfiddich? People should cancel HBO? People should boycott all Apple products?
There's plenty more examples from trump regarding cancel culture if you don't support him and his agenda. Seems like a double standard to be upset with jtr for this behavior when trump normalizes it.
That's a possibility, but I believe it is more likely that they would follow him blindly whatever he says or does. They subscribe to the snake oil, and all of his thousands of lies - little, big, or middle-sized. They're the Exalted Knights of the KKK, Making America White Again! They actually believe that he cares about their wretched lives, when all he really cares about is trying to prop up his crumbling financial "empire" by using all of the graft/grift powers available to him in the office of President.Biden called them "The Poor Boys" in a slip of the tongue but it's actually not far from the truth. When the shine wears off Trump for them, they'll find they wasted the last four years of their lives blindly following someone who is at best a snake oil salesman, at worst someone on par with figures like Hitler or Stalin. I wouldn't want to be Trump on the day his followers turn on him. He'll need eyes in the back of his head for the rest of his life.
The Heritage Foundation rejects the scientific consensus on climate change. The Heritage Foundation is one of many climate change denial organizations that have been funded by ExxonMobil. The Heritage Foundation strongly criticized the Kyoto Agreement, which was intended to curb climate change, saying American participation in the treaty would "result in lower economic growth in every state and nearly every sector of the economy." The Heritage Foundation projected that the 2009 cap-and-trade bill, the American Clean Energy and Security Act, would result in a cost of $1,870 per family in 2025 and $6,800 by 2035; on the other hand, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office projected that it would only cost the average family $175 in 2020.