Samsung 2TB

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Price could simply be reduced.

They are rewarding those that subscribe to their newsletter. For people that don't know about the promo they are making an extra $30/drive. That doesn't take into account selling less drives because of a higher price.
 

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I understand that, but a code is now inline with the text for all to see.
 

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So this time the Robot Egg recommended a Thermaltakei BlacX, an assortment of three i7/i5 CPUs, and AutoCad LT. One out of five. :)
 

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The newer Samsung 2TB drive does not cause the indicator to remain lit. It is curious. It is tempting to buy more, yet I know that 3TB WD drives will be here soon enough.
 

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I got the drives I ordered and hooked them up last night. One of them shows up as ~2000GB, the other shows up as 931GB. This is the case both in the BIOS and in GParted. I tried switching the cables and the sizes switched. Has anyone ever seen a cable that couldn't support a 2TB drive?

I ordered some new SATA cables from monoprice.com, I'm hoping that will fix it.
 

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I got the drives I ordered and hooked them up last night. One of them shows up as ~2000GB, the other shows up as 931GB. This is the case both in the BIOS and in GParted. I tried switching the cables and the sizes switched. Has anyone ever seen a cable that couldn't support a 2TB drive?

I ordered some new SATA cables from monoprice.com, I'm hoping that will fix it.

Do they show up that way in the BIOS? A 1TB drive should be displayed as 931GB and a 2TB drive as 1.81 TB.
 

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I got the drives I ordered and hooked them up last night. One of them shows up as ~2000GB, the other shows up as 931GB. This is the case both in the BIOS and in GParted. I tried switching the cables and the sizes switched. Has anyone ever seen a cable that couldn't support a 2TB drive?

I ordered some new SATA cables from monoprice.com, I'm hoping that will fix it.
Are they both connected to the same SATA controller?

The 2TB Samsung I bought for my Dad first showed up as ~931GB in Windows / 1000GB in the BIOS until I flashed the computer's BIOS to the latest beta BIOS (nForce 430 chipset). Then it showed up as 2000GB in the BIOS, but still ~931GB in Windows. I had to download the Samsung ES-Tool to clear the MBR so Windows would see the drive as new and then showed the true size after re-initializing it.

The one I bought for myself showed up as 2TB on my system. It's connected to a ICH10R.
 

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I tried switching the cables and the sizes switched. Has anyone ever seen a cable that couldn't support a 2TB drive?
When you switched the cables between the drives did you also change the port on the motherboard the cables were plugged into?

IE: Drive A to Port 3 with cable A = 1000GB
IE: Drive B to Port 4 with cable B = 2000GB

swap

IE: Drive A to Port 3 with cable B = 2000GB
IE: Drive B to Port 4 with cable A = 1000GB

or was it

IE: Drive A to Port 3 with cable A = 1000GB
IE: Drive B to Port 4 with cable B = 2000GB

swap

IE: Drive B to Port 3 with cable A = 1000GB
IE: Drive A to Port 4 with cable B = 2000GB
 

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When you switched the cables between the drives did you also change the port on the motherboard the cables were plugged into?

IE: Drive A to Port 3 with cable A = 1000GB
IE: Drive B to Port 4 with cable B = 2000GB

swap

IE: Drive A to Port 3 with cable B = 2000GB
IE: Drive B to Port 4 with cable A = 1000GB

or was it

IE: Drive A to Port 3 with cable A = 1000GB
IE: Drive B to Port 4 with cable B = 2000GB

swap

IE: Drive B to Port 3 with cable A = 1000GB
IE: Drive A to Port 4 with cable B = 2000GB

I believe it was:

Drive A to port 3 with cable A = 1000GB
Drive B to port 4 with cable B = 2000GB

swap

Drive A to port 4 with Cable B = 2000GB
Drive B to port 3 with Cable A = 1000GB
 

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Why should the cable matter? I have cables from 500GB era drives that work on 2TB drives just fine. Do you have other controllers to use the drives with?
 

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The cable shouldn't matter... unless it's bad.

But, in that case, there should be other errors.
 

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Use a tool to check the SMART data on the drive and look for "Ultra DMA CRC Error Count". That counter is typical of a cabling problem.
 

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Yes, that's possible. I'll try it again when I get the new cables. I don't feel like screwing with it anymore.

I got the new cables and screwed around some more. From what I can tell it's the drive not the controller or the cable. I must have been mistaken when I was testing this previously.

Steps I took:
  1. Replaced the cable, drive still showed up as 1000GB
  2. Switched to another open port, still showed up as 1000GB
  3. Switched to the cable and port that I know works with the other Samsung 2TB drive, still showed up as 1000GB

I will RMA this drive. What a pain.
 

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Maybe it is a 1TB drive or half of the heads are dead. :reindeer:
 

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I did not know that company existed. Are the stores worth visiting in the flesh? None are close, but there is one within non-stop driving range on a weekend.
 

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Somewhere in between but closer to Fry's than CompUSA.

Their sales are pretty good. I got a Q6600 there for $199 back when they were still ~$300 everywhere else. They still run similar sales on other components.
 

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It would not be economical, but a way to buy something relatively locally. I will be visiting Frys in June on travel. Usually I find some interesting items.
 

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$115 now. I wonder if there will be $100 specials by Q4 holidays.
 

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By the end of Q4, 3TB drives and maybe even 4TB drives will be available, so the chances that 2TB will go down to 100$ are pretty good.

Yeah, but it sucks that I'll never be able to use larger drives. :silent:
 

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I'm not sure it's the OS limit. Win XP x86 (x32) has no problem dealing with network shares larger than 2TB.
 
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