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Chewy509

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about half way between Africa and Australia, 3700km from landfall.
Normal military aircraft don't have anywhere near that kind of range, so they chartered an Airbus A330. With 11 observers and two sets of crew, it took 4 hours just to reach the search area and 5 to return, leaving just 2 hours for low-altitude (2000ft) searching.
P3C Orion has an public-known range of 8,900km? Doesn't leave long for loiter time, but a P3C was desgined for maritime hunting and could've quite easily picked out her boat at some distance?

Just glad she was found, and still in good health.
 

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A330-200 has a range of 13,400 km. However, that's quoted fully loaded, whereas AFAIK the P-3C is quoted unloaded ('ferry' configuration).

While searching at low altitude (600 m), fuel consumption goes through the roof. So the effective range and 'time on station' are going to be less in this case. You also have to allow for unexpected problems with the aircraft - after all, there's no alternative runway to head to ...

The A330 cruises at 870km/h, whereas the P-3C cruises at 610km/h. So instead of 9 hours, travel time would be closer to 13 hours.

As it happens, the Air Force did send two P-3Cs to an island that is slightly closer to the crippled boat than Australia is, as a fallback option if the situation worsened.

As for spotting the boat, don't forget that it's pretty small and there was a substantial swell.
 

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Maybe it's time to start looking at replacing the Orions with fast movers, since they have the range and therefore longer loiter times over a target area? P-8A maybe? But that's based on an older 737 design.
 

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Your government is already doing that :

In July 2007, the Australian Government was given 'first pass approval' to participate in the cooperative development of the P-8A Poseidon. The P-8A would replace the Royal Australian Navy's fleet of P-3C Orion aircraft.
Source
 

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So did you go and see the race Coug? Do you live close to the course?

Can't wait for Texas in 2012.
 

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So did you go and see the race Coug? Do you live close to the course?
Nope. Too busy working and too poor to buy tickets (500$+). Anyway, no one to go with so no point. I catched the ending on TV. I heard the race was an absolute success, which is good for my city. Good show, good crowd, good money. Good thing it's back.

I live North of Montréal and the circuit Gilles Villeneuve is located South of Montréal. It's about 30Km from where I live.
 

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"As BP found itself in a frantic race against time to get the job done, engineers cut corners in the well design, cementing and drilling mud efforts and the installation of safety devices known as ``lockdown sleeves'' and ``centralizers,'' according to congressional investigators.

In the design of the well, the company apparently chose a riskier option among two possibilities to provide a barrier to the flow of gas in space surrounding steel tubes in the well, documents and internal e-mails show"

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/busin...-spill-documents/story-e6frede3-1225879810476

Just a complete lack of anything resembling common sense. Pure criminal stupidity. It's like every single procedure related to safety was ripped out of the book, all in the quest for profits.
 

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Nope. Too busy working and too poor to buy tickets (500$+). Anyway, no one to go with so no point. I catched the ending on TV. I heard the race was an absolute success, which is good for my city. Good show, good crowd, good money. Good thing it's back.

I live North of Montréal and the circuit Gilles Villeneuve is located South of Montréal. It's about 30Km from where I live.

Sweet Jebus. $500 is indeed a lot, even considering they are Canadian dollars.
 

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I don't know, but it seems like the oil companies in general aren't that concerned about the environment. Just look at Nigeria, the situation there is much worse than in the Mexican Gulf, but they aren't doing very much about it.
 

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.., but otherwise just dealing with Telstra due to ongoing mobile phone issues. Both current handsets have been sent away again, (telstra have given me 2x loan handsets and will waive all repair fees).
Both handsets have come back from repair... Their fix: reflash the firmware on both units and perform a Master Reset. (That's been the same thing they did the last 2 times). They also mentioned that bluetooth and WiFi were on as well, (which is complete BS). After a good discussion with the manager about that not being good enough as they obviously know that there a fault they can't fix, he has agreed to cancel all contracts and let us choose another phone if we wish to continue with Telstra.
 

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That's pretty much a replay of my experience, with their claims that reflashing would fix it - this time.

Our laws are too weak; no company should be able to get away with such repeated, blatant fraud.

Good call on applying pressure to the retailer before S*ny mucked you about any further.
 

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I have absolutely no motivation to work today.

Neither do I. I'm lucky enough to be on Jury Duty this week, but have yet to be called to court for Jury selection. (basically a week off work so far, as while on Summons to court for Jury Duty you're not allowed to go to work until you are discharged from court, or not called for selection by the time your nominated period runs out).
 

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I picked up a summer-time cold and fell asleep (unnoticed) a couple time in front of a customer. Plays hell with the motivation too.
 

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Neither do I. I'm lucky enough to be on Jury Duty this week, but have yet to be called to court for Jury selection. (basically a week off work so far, as while on Summons to court for Jury Duty you're not allowed to go to work until you are discharged from court, or not called for selection by the time your nominated period runs out).

Do you get paid? The pay here for jury duty is minimal.
 

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That's pretty much a replay of my experience, with their claims that reflashing would fix it - this time.

Our laws are too weak; no company should be able to get away with such repeated, blatant fraud.

Good call on applying pressure to the retailer before S*ny mucked you about any further.

Yep, the manager at the local telstra didn't like me, but I ended up getting both handsets replaced.

Was offered the choice between a Nokia E71 and a Samsung Ultratouch... Went the Samsung due to known problems with that model of nokia. So far the phone is working quite well.

My only nitpick is that to use UMS or MTP modes when connecting to a PC, it requires a SD card installed.
 

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What problems does the E71 have, Chewy? I've been using one since December 2008 and it's by far the best phone I've ever had. There's 3 issues I don't like:
1) The small screen
2) No HTML email, only text
3) When is syncs email, it'll kill a call if you're on one

I'll change it only because of reasons 1 & 2. Otherwise it's fantastic.
 

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What problems does the E71 have, Chewy?

High failure rate for the ones supplied by Telstra here in Oz. According to local contacts some retailers are seeing up to 20% failure rate within 6 mths, with the most common problem being poor reception, dogdy keyboards or random hard-locks. (The manager we've been dealing with due to problems with our previous handset said out of the 20 E71's they have sold in the last 6mths, 5 have been returned for repair for various reasons).

The Telstra version (also called a E71-3) uses 850MHz instead of 900MHz/2100MHz for 3G access, which requires that the phones have a slight hardware modifcation and some customer OEM firmware loaded. (I believe the latter is most likely the cause of the problems).

By all means, when I did a search on the E71 for research to choose between the 2, I found nothing but praise for it. But speaking with repair technician directly and the manager of the local store I've been deaing with, both said that they have had a higher than normal failure rate on them, and since we were swapping handsets due to multiple repairs with our current handsets, I'm sure the manager wouldn't be wanting to give us another handset that had issues.

The only problem noted with the Samsung handsets we got, was poor battery life when using the GPS with the live map/street view feture since it enables the GPS as well as HSPDA at the same time. When you only have a small 880mAH battery to play with, I could see why that is a problem. But otherwise the Samsungs have been quite good.
 

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I accidentally deleted a whole 2TB hard drive in the early AM. :cursin:
 

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Oh and never work in the morning. Wait untill you've finished your second cup of coffee and are fully wake up. It normally takes a few hours. If someone asks why you're not doing anything, reply that you're doing something, you are...planning.
 

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Not with 600-700GB written over. Recovery is a boring waste of time. Now I'm moving data all around again. It is certainly not a time saver to do this in the middle of the night and screw it up. :bstd:
 

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Oh and never work in the morning. Wait untill you've finished your second cup of coffee and are fully wake up. It normally takes a few hours. If someone asks why you're not doing anything, reply that you're doing something, you are...planning.

I agree (cross posted above before reading this).
 

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I picked up a summer-time cold and fell asleep (unnoticed) a couple time in front of a customer. Plays hell with the motivation too.

How did the customer not notice your eyes were closed? Is this web support or something?
 
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