Chewy509
Wotty wot wot.
My sentiments as well.
Timing of building a new system
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CougTek
Hairy Aussie
Do you have a lot of money on the side? If not, forget about a retail store. To run a store, you need to keep a lot of inventory. Inventory = frozen money. You buy a lot of stuff that you pay upfront, hoping you'll make money on it sometime in the future. In the meanwhile, the invoices keep coming and you need to pay them even if haven't sold as much as you thought you would. When you're starting, you need to advertise to let people know that you exist. I don't know about you neck of the woods, but here advertisement isn't cheap and you're rolling the dice every time you try it without knowing if it will pay off. Sometimes, most of the time in fact, you end up missing your targeted customers pool.
Also, you do not start a store alone. It worked in the eighties and nineties (when Tony and perhaps Buck began), but it certainly doesn't work nowadays.
My advice : find a new job. Now.
Bozo
Storage? I am Storage!
Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
mubs
Storage? I am Storage!
Thanks all, for the concern and best wishes. That's what makes this a swell place.
Coug, I was only half serious about starting a business. If I ever do go that route, it most certainly will not be a physical store, but a web based one. And you're absolutely right about not doing it alone; I couldn't. And I certainly don't have that kind of money lying around. I'm going to look for a job first of course.
I'm going to get the Crucial 64 GB SSD to be the Win7 boot drive. Will use my present system for a while and see how it fares. I'll bump up the 2 GB RAM to 4 by using the 2 sticks I bought from Clocker in fall 2007 but haven't yet put in the system! Using 4 sticks will slow down the timing somewhat, but I guess 4 GB is better than 2 for Win 7. My work laptop has 2 GB and is running Win 7 Enterprise, but I think lags are because of the Seagate Momentus drive: 120 GB 7200 RPM, but 8 MB cache and only 59 MB sustained transfer rates.
Coug, I was only half serious about starting a business. If I ever do go that route, it most certainly will not be a physical store, but a web based one. And you're absolutely right about not doing it alone; I couldn't. And I certainly don't have that kind of money lying around. I'm going to look for a job first of course.
I'm going to get the Crucial 64 GB SSD to be the Win7 boot drive. Will use my present system for a while and see how it fares. I'll bump up the 2 GB RAM to 4 by using the 2 sticks I bought from Clocker in fall 2007 but haven't yet put in the system! Using 4 sticks will slow down the timing somewhat, but I guess 4 GB is better than 2 for Win 7. My work laptop has 2 GB and is running Win 7 Enterprise, but I think lags are because of the Seagate Momentus drive: 120 GB 7200 RPM, but 8 MB cache and only 59 MB sustained transfer rates.
mubs
Storage? I am Storage!
I decided to be prudent and skip the SSD for now. I do have a spare 250GB HDD I can make the boot drive for Win 7, but fitting it in to the case with the other drives already in there would be a pain.
Prob is I can't afford any downtime. If I was building a whole new system, I could have kept my current system as is while I gradually installed apps on the new one till it was complete and then decommissioned the present one. Now I'll have to dual boot on the same machine.
My current XP boot drive already has about 50GB space at the beginning that I had left when I last organized the disk. Win 7 was intended to go there. According to this thread, dual booting XP and Win7 on the same drive is fairly easy.
I'm not an entire noob as far as dual booting goes; have done it with W98/W3.1, W2k/W98.
I'll image the current XP boot partition before I touch it, of course. I understand W7 may put its files on other partitions (I'll disconnect the other drives), but that shouldn't be a problem because this system will continue as is till I am able to build the new m/c in 6 months or a year.
What do y'all think?
Prob is I can't afford any downtime. If I was building a whole new system, I could have kept my current system as is while I gradually installed apps on the new one till it was complete and then decommissioned the present one. Now I'll have to dual boot on the same machine.
My current XP boot drive already has about 50GB space at the beginning that I had left when I last organized the disk. Win 7 was intended to go there. According to this thread, dual booting XP and Win7 on the same drive is fairly easy.
I'm not an entire noob as far as dual booting goes; have done it with W98/W3.1, W2k/W98.
I'll image the current XP boot partition before I touch it, of course. I understand W7 may put its files on other partitions (I'll disconnect the other drives), but that shouldn't be a problem because this system will continue as is till I am able to build the new m/c in 6 months or a year.
What do y'all think?
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
A Windows 7 install that is regularly updated will eventually grow larger than 50GB thanks to the WinSXS folder. It will certainly fit in that space initially, but over the course of a year or so, maybe not.
mubs
Storage? I am Storage!
Thanks for the heads up. I can repartition now to make more room; not a problem.
My work laptop has been running Win 7 Enterprise for about 18 months, and the 'C' drive is now using 22.4 GB. It has MS Office Enterprise 2007, Visio Pro 2007, Project Pro 2007, VC++ Redistributable, Acrobat, and a bunch of stuff.
It gets updated regularly through WUS internally. SP1 was installed much after the original installation.
WINSXS is 4.36 GB.
Maybe there's a setting that keeps it in check?
My work laptop has been running Win 7 Enterprise for about 18 months, and the 'C' drive is now using 22.4 GB. It has MS Office Enterprise 2007, Visio Pro 2007, Project Pro 2007, VC++ Redistributable, Acrobat, and a bunch of stuff.
It gets updated regularly through WUS internally. SP1 was installed much after the original installation.
WINSXS is 4.36 GB.
Maybe there's a setting that keeps it in check?
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
WinSXS on the notebook I'm using at the moment is 12GB. This install is perhaps 15 months old.
But I've seen Vista machines with 70GB WinSXS directories, which makes me think that the potential for massive directory bloat exists.
But I've seen Vista machines with 70GB WinSXS directories, which makes me think that the potential for massive directory bloat exists.
ddrueding
Fixture
As an interesting aside to this, if you have installed 7 SP1 and are OK with making it permanent you can get some space back by clearing the uninstall files:
Press the "Windows" key, type "CMD"
Right-click on the "CMD" and choose "Run as Administrator"
In the Admin command line, type the following without quotes:
"dism /online /cleanup-image /spsuperseded"
This should take several minutes and clear 3-5GB.
I've tried it twice with success both times.
Press the "Windows" key, type "CMD"
Right-click on the "CMD" and choose "Run as Administrator"
In the Admin command line, type the following without quotes:
"dism /online /cleanup-image /spsuperseded"
This should take several minutes and clear 3-5GB.
I've tried it twice with success both times.
ddrueding
Fixture
If some of you try this with success, I'll add it to the toolbox section.
Will Rickards
Storage Is My Life
Doesn't CCleaner already do this?
ddrueding
Fixture
I don't know. It doesn't list it on the website.
ddrueding
Fixture
I just installed CCleaner, ran all the options, then ran this command. This command saved an additional 4GB of space.
Mercutio
Fatwah on Western Digital
It does not.
BingBangBop
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I tried it. Got an error:
I looked at the log, lots of text (about 26KB) but I didn't see an error there.
WinSxS Folder size before 106MB after 106MB
Now mind you, this Win7 install does not auto-update. I tend to do it manually and only very occasionally.
I looked at the log, lots of text (about 26KB) but I didn't see an error there.
WinSxS Folder size before 106MB after 106MB
Now mind you, this Win7 install does not auto-update. I tend to do it manually and only very occasionally.
I get the same error. I'm running Win 7 64-bit and there is no 'spsuperseded' argument to this tool listed in the help.
My WinSxS folder is 13GB on my work machine.
ddrueding
Fixture
Does your machine have SP1 installed? (Right-click on my computer and choose "Properties")
ddrueding
Fixture
The other thought I had is whether SP1 was already slipstreamed onto the disk you installed from?
BingBangBop
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No -- For this install, SP1 refused to install.
I've seriously considered an inplace repair re-install But the install works except for installing SP1, so thus far I have resisted the temptation.
BingBangBop
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P.S. Like Handruin's, it also an x64 bit install of Win 7
ddrueding
Fixture
Yeah, if SP1 isn't installed then the tool to remove the SP1 uninstall information should probably fail 
Will Rickards
Storage Is My Life
Tried that command line and winsxs went from 10GB to 6.5GB. Thanks!
Yeah, if SP1 isn't installed then the tool to remove the SP1 uninstall information should probably fail
That was stupid of me. I thought I was at SP1 on my work machine, but you're correct...I did not have SP1 installed.