Folding@Home

[Clocker]

Jake-

My proxy requires an id and password and it seems to work. Are you saying you are not sure if you can use a ID/PW with the console? I know there are several different authentication protocols (I don't know them) but I can at least say the one at my work works (although I have stopped running F@H there).

Do you have any other programs running in the background? Or maybe some services?Is you F@H install in it's own directory? Are there any special read/write/execute permissions set on the install location? JUst some random ideas there....

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[Jake the Dog]

i can tell it to use my usr & pwd but it's not accepting it. it sees the proxy but won't authenticate. i've treid many variations of usr/pwd.

good suggestions clocker. unfortunately none are the cause. it could be a timing issue caused by an incompatabilioty with either the cpu, chipset or ram problem, or possbily a combinatin of them.

running Athlon XP on KT266a mobo and CAS2.5 2100 DDR.

 

[Groltz]

i can tell it to use my usr & pwd but it's not accepting it. it sees the proxy but won't authenticate. i've treid many variations of usr/pwd.

good suggestions clocker. unfortunately none are the cause. it could be a timing issue caused by an incompatabilioty with either the cpu, chipset or ram problem, or possbily a combinatin of them.

running Athlon XP on KT266a mobo and CAS2.5 2100 DDR.

At least in my experience, FAH is very tolerant of whacked out CPU and memory timings. :wink:

 

[Clocker]

Just another guess, but, possibly any power management mechanisms kicking in?

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[Mercutio]

Are there issues with F@H and VIA chipsets?

I set up a couple of 800MHz duron machines on spare boards (8KHAL+ and an old AZ11E), and I run into the same problem every time.

 

[Clocker]

Never had a problem with my KT266A. I'll know about the KT133E tomorrow with a Duron 850 (@1000, hopefully)...

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[Cliptin]

Never had a problem with my KT266A. I'll know about the KT133E tomorrow with a Duron 850 (@1000, hopefully)...

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What KT133E are you running?

I have three different via boards from three different manufacturers and none of them have had any problems.

 

[Clocker]

What KT133E are you running?

Hopefully, I will be setting up one of these today:

http://www.chaintechusa.com/products/socketa/7aja2e.htm

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[Cliptin]

What KT133E are you running?

Hopefully, I will be setting up one of these today:

http://www.chaintechusa.com/products/socketa/7aja2e.htm

C

I'm running this and for some reason they have chosen not to provide support for anything higher than a 1700+ or update the BIOS since march. What processor are you putting in it.

 

[Clocker]

Clippy-
I mentioned that above...Duron 850 (hopefully @1000).

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[Jake the Dog]

thanks for you suggestions guys. i had MIS work the problem and the issue was found at our end, in our proxy.

this is what i like to see - four P3-700 XEON's hard at work

 

[Clocker]

I just fired up the Duron 850 @ 960 (120mhz fsb). This is everything I'm going to get running methinks:

• Dual Athlon XP 1700+ (AMD 760MPX, 512MB 2100DDR)
• Duron 850@960- Can't tweak Voltage!! (VIA KT133E, 128MB PC133)
• P3 1Ghz (i810e, 256MB PC133)

All are running XP. Lol... the 1.2GB (pre-ATA33) Seagate drive on the Duron Box only has like 50MB free after installing WinXP! That system also has a sweet 4x NEC CDROM running in PIO mode. Both of those drives were pulled from the old Packard Bell P133 shitbox I ditched.

It is really kind of nice, I can control all machines via WinXP remote desktop from my main machine upstars.

There is a P2 400 at work I could use but I don't think I will use it unless it is really needed.

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[Prof.Wizard]

I just fired up the Duron 850 @ 960 (120mhz fsb). This is everything I'm going to get running methinks:
All are running XP. Lol... the 1.2GB (pre-ATA33) Seagate drive on the Duron Box only has like 50MB free after installing WinXP! That system also has a sweet 4x NEC CDROM running in PIO mode. Both of those drives were pulled from the old Packard Bell P133 shitbox I ditched.
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Hehe, the processor is OK, but the rest of the system hardly justifies the expense in electricity and thermal output to the enviroment just to calculate some protein stereotaxis...

You may find the cure for Alzheimer, Clocker, but you'll definitely destroy the earth in the process... :lol:















Joking of course. :wink:

 

[Jake the Dog]

every cpu counts


how often does the assignment server have problems? i have a few machines here that are can connect but aren't receiving any work and have been trying for over 2 hours. i've seen this a few times over the last 2 days.

 

[Tea]

Often. Very often. I've stopped worrying about it now, I just have my little farm of machines left running with no screen switched on.

 

[Cliptin]

Some servers more than others:
http://forum.folding-community.org/viewforum.php?f=11

 

[Cliptin]

Some servers more than others:
http://forum.folding-community.org/viewforum.php?f=11

Finally at 6:50 GMT .117 gave me a protein.

Which server are you guys having trouble with.

 

[Buck]

I've never kept track of how often the server provides me with information to cruch. The systems I use for this task are dedicated, thus I rarely visit their status.

 

[Jake the Dog]

q: has anyone successfully measured how much faster the console is vs the gui version of F@H?

 

[Clocker]

I haven't but I believe both use the same core. I'd think the only difference would be related to how many CPU cycles are used by the GUI version while the screen saver & graphical outputs are being displayed. In essence, I doubt there is any difference.

What's nice about the console version (IMP) is that you can configure it as a service and set-it and forget it. I don't have any pesky icons in the system tray or anything to distract me. Crunching is just a part of life for my machine now...

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[Cliptin]

I haven't but I believe both use the same core. I'd think the only difference would be related to how many CPU cycles are used by the GUI version while the screen saver & graphical outputs are being displayed. In essence, I doubt there is any difference.

What's nice about the console version (IMP) is that you can configure it as a service and set-it and forget it. I don't have any pesky icons in the system tray or anything to distract me. Crunching is just a part of life for my machine now...

C

I may be delusional (don't laugh) but I would swear my machines increased output after started running the console version as a service.

 

[Clocker]

Maybe you are just running it more consistently now that it is configured as a service?

Ever get those auctions up Clipton?

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[Cliptin]

Maybe you are just running it more consistently now that it is configured as a service?

Ever get those auctions up Clipton?

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Sometime between 10-10:30. :wink:

WD Enterprise
X15

 

[Jake the Dog]

hos are the team score calculated? i seem to be shurning out the w/u's however my team score is well below others of lesser w/u's. does it depend on the type of w/u processed, time take to process, etc?

 

[Jake the Dog]

hos are the team score calculated? i seem to be shurning out the w/u's however my team score is well below others with lesser w/u's. does it depend on the type of w/u processed, time taken to process, etc?

grrr. did it again.

hos = how
shurning = churning
take = taken

 

[CougTek]

I should get my three regular systems back on 24x7 tomorrow. Hopefully, it will let me upper my weekly production to ~140-150 points like it was about a month ago.

In my new home, I have a piece where I can put all my computers so I don't have to place them in the same room as my T.V. I was really tired of constantly having the hooomm as background noise when I was watching T.V. late in the night. Now I'll finally have peace.


Jake,

Each working unit type has a different score associated to it depending on the time it takes to complete it. One point is given for the amount of work a Pentium II 400MHz would be able to complete in an entire day. An Athlon XP 1600+ does around 7-8 points a day (IIRC) when running for 24 hours.

 

[NRG = mc²]

The folding client is stupid. This is like the tenth time it does this. It runs out of stuff to process and sits here. I'm currently connected to the net, but right now it doesn't want to download more data (CPU load is zero). I've just realised its been idle for almost 24 hours <sigh>.

Why don't they just make something simple and effective like SetiDriver

 

[CougTek]

Woohoo. From 7th to 5th overall in less than two days. However, I don't know how long I'll be able to resist to Cliptin's rising, but at least I might be able to heat him for a while when he'll re-pass me. Also, I have no idea how strong our Bartender will come back once he gets new computers waiting to be picked up by some customers.

Next target : Handruin

If it wouldn't have been of my moving, I would have passed you long ago. I'll just fix that momentary annoyance in a few days. 8)

 

[CougTek]

BTW, my Linux box has downloaded the Gromacs client yesterday. It's version 3.1.2 and it's quite a bit different thant the previous client. It uses the FahCore_78.exe rather than the FahCore_65.exe that my other Windows 2K boxes use.

Since I downloaded the client v3.1, I no longer have the separated core (client.cfg) in the same directory as the Fah3Console.exe file. I don't know how I could get the new core for my Winblows computers.

 

[Bartender]

Pass me up as you wish. The systems are off until further notice. Electrical woes and electricity bills have curbed my crunching activity. But, we still serve a mean Mai Tai.

 

[Pradeep]

BTW, my Linux box has downloaded the Gromacs client yesterday. It's version 3.1.2 and it's quite a bit different thant the previous client. It uses the FahCore_78.exe rather than the FahCore_65.exe that my other Windows 2K boxes use.

Since I downloaded the client v3.1, I no longer have the separated core (client.cfg) in the same directory as the Fah3Console.exe file. I don't know how I could get the new core for my Winblows computers.

I think the new core is only available for Linux presently? I renamed core 6.5 and it tried to dl 6.5 again.

 

[Clocker]

Correct the new core is currently available for Linux:

http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=873

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[CougTek]

The core_78 was only used for certain proteins. When it finished three specific units, it re-downloaded the core_65 and everything is back like before.

In the meanwhile, I had a bad surprise this morning when I woke up. My three computers were down, probably because of a power failure. Since I'm still in front of Cliptin, it must have occured not too long before I noticed it, but still, I hate to slow down for nothing.

 

[CougTek]

Something is wrong, I'm over-producing JoJo. In fact I'm over-producing everyone else currently. Problem is : I didn't improve my setup at all. Which means it's you guys who are downgrading. While I'm very proud of being the top member of the moment, me being first with only four and a half not-so-fast computers doesn't look too promising for the team in general.

We only maintain our beat because of the arrival of a bunch of new contributors, among which a new major player (Jake). Our closer opponent (MacRumors) also added new players, but unlike us, the veterans continue on a steady pace. We still need you guys.

 

[Groltz]

We still need you guys.

Ship out a dual Athlon XP rig to me Coug. I will run it from here for you. :wink:

 

[CougTek]

The waking call wasn't for you Steve. Your production has been steady for a while. I also want to congratulates Mark. He has improved considerably recently. Maybe he didn't want to let go his 8th place so easily this time, when he saw the shadow of a Mourn in his rear mirror? ;-)

Anyway, I just want to make some motivation, not to break anyone's arm. I would also get tired of constantly swaping cables if I was in the same situation as Tea and her not-enough-holes-in-the-hub problem. And maybe JoJo received a bigger than expected electricity bill this month and decided to shut down a few systems? It's also perfectly understandable that Buck can't always have systems on shelves running when no customer is going to pick them up. I don't blame any of you.

...But we need to improve to continue to climb the ladder and reach the big boys. I'm currently trying to bring back to life a K6-2 of unknown frequency (forgot to check when I removed the heatsink). It's not much, but it's by cumulating small steps that we can make big leaps.

 

[Cliptin]

The waking call wasn't for you Steve. Your production has been steady for a while. I also want to congratulates Mark. He has improved considerably recently. Maybe he didn't want to let go his 8th place so easily this time, when he saw the shadow of a Mourn in his rear mirror? ;-)

Anyway, I just want to make some motivation, not to break anyone's arm. I would also get tired of constantly swaping cables if I was in the same situation as Tea and her not-enough-holes-in-the-hub problem. And maybe JoJo received a bigger than expected electricity bill this month and decided to shut down a few systems? It's also perfectly understandable that Buck can't always have systems on shelves running when no customer is going to pick them up. I don't blame any of you.

...But we need to improve to continue to climb the ladder and reach the big boys. I'm currently trying to bring back to life a K6-2 of unknown frequency (forgot to check when I removed the heatsink). It's not much, but it's by cumulating small steps that we can make big leaps.

It wouldn't hurt to double the number of participants.

 

[Handruin]

The waking call wasn't for you Steve. Your production has been steady for a while. I also want to congratulates Mark. He has improved considerably recently. Maybe he didn't want to let go his 8th place so easily this time, when he saw the shadow of a Mourn in his rear mirror? ;-)

Anyway, I just want to make some motivation, not to break anyone's arm. I would also get tired of constantly swaping cables if I was in the same situation as Tea and her not-enough-holes-in-the-hub problem. And maybe JoJo received a bigger than expected electricity bill this month and decided to shut down a few systems? It's also perfectly understandable that Buck can't always have systems on shelves running when no customer is going to pick them up. I don't blame any of you.

...But we need to improve to continue to climb the ladder and reach the big boys. I'm currently trying to bring back to life a K6-2 of unknown frequency (forgot to check when I removed the heatsink). It's not much, but it's by cumulating small steps that we can make big leaps.

With that said, I've been planning to build a new system for some time now, but I'm not sure what to do. I'm considering two options, a single or a dual processor.

I would like to stick AMD, how reliable have people's setups been for dual AMD, and what drawbacks (aside from cost) are there?

I know clocker has a dual rig going, what would it cost to build something like that (board, RAM, CPU) and can I get by with the Antec SX830 case I just bought? (Antec 300 watt PS) Should put this in a new thread, is it worth it?

 

[Buck]

Handruin, Dual AMD systems are great if you are going to use the power. But think outside of the barn, how about starting a rackmount system?

 

[Handruin]

Handruin, Dual AMD systems are great if you are going to use the power. But think outside of the barn, how about starting a rackmount system?

Sounds good, but I have no room for a rack in my apartment Unless I can tip a 1-2U case on it's side and lean it against the desk.

Will I use the power? I'm sure F@H will, other then that I can't justify it, I won't lie. I do some video work, and some web development and gaming, but nothing I do really needs a dual. I was considering it if the price difference wasn't too high. I'm looking mainly for a stable machine that will run 24x7. I'd even consider IDE raid 1 for that.